yeah, and i think that's a good thing. im arguing that certain limitations to ownership that includes everyone in a juristiction isnt always a bad thing.

thats like a micro government that is consentual

but, @vlnc.co, that is all sorted out in the market economy via explicit contracts and stipulations, etc

you will WANT to negotiate some rights away in return for certain privileges in the real world

@zutt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvGBinfaeJY

like i give up the right to play obnoxiously loud music in my neighborhood in return for the others to agree to the same terms in the homeowner association

it all just boils down to consent and explicit contracts, my friends

"consent of the governed" etc ..... its like we try and masquerade under this idea already but never really bother to think about it deeper

there would still be a *de facto* government in a pure free market economy bcuz of all the contracts that are layered upon each other voluntarily and consentually

a lot of security firms would be run by insurance companies... etc bcuz they have an incentive to keep things peaceful and prevent damages and costs, etc

And then firearms manufacturers would be run by the security firms, or run by the military, like they used to be

PEACE officers... bring them back!

all possible under private (consentual) governance

i like your picture poptarts

lol, thanks ✌

anybody could become their own private firearms manufacturer though... as Cody Wilson has demonstrated .....

Bourdain went to a family that did that in his trip to West VA

RIP btw

they made auto capable ones too

obviously only accessible by the government and PMCs

theres a ton of really good content that the Mises Institute covers on their channel though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiFWiGdLwE8

just one example

@Arch-Fiend that was very simplistic view

i will take armies of Dale Brown clones over modern police thuggary manufactoring vicitimless crimes any day!

I think tl dr had some personal conflict with sargon before

"numaricly the effect of these people joining the party has seemingly done very little to increase the partys size so far, the party is already very very small relitive to the rest of the partys. its no surprise people who have attention from all over the world have only a fraction of that attention in a single country even if its the largest fraction (though i dont actually think it is the largest fraction for most of them besides maybe dankula), also their attitude when joining the party is in poor spirit"
-simplistic view

His saltyness shows towards the end

https://www.youtube.com/user/misesmedia/search?query=private+government+police+security

well guess the subject has moved on! lol gg

Its the influencer part which matter not the number of new memebers

Ukip is ignored by mainstream media

And they need to get their message to ppl if they want to get their numbers back

Having ppl like sorgon and others shill for them is great way

New members help, but I agree that having people with large social media followings in their ranks is probably the larger boon

gotta get awareness up numbers come second

Like sargon just released hour long interview with baten and while i could object to lots of things there and it had terrible sound quality

people like sargon and dankula dont actually agree with most things ukip is about

It can be shared now

though pjw might

@Poptarts well either i misunderstood your original argument or it seems like youve changed your argument; before in the water example you were arguing for absolute ownership, but now seem to agree that there should be limits in some cases. the main difference seems to be that you are for private governance vs what we have today. one could argue that a democratic govt is also built on "contracts that are layered upon each other voluntarily and consentually" though.