Message from @Poptarts

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2018-07-06 22:12:45 UTC  

>in anticipation of you retaliating for me violating your NAP, thus you violating my NAP, i recreationally nuke you

2018-07-06 22:13:05 UTC  

Frankly if sargon and is ukip friends play this right they could easily get back to over 10% national poling

2018-07-06 22:13:29 UTC  

yes, @vlnc.co, that is the point.... it was voluntary agreement that you made to give up some of the property rights in exchange to live in a particular homeowner association

2018-07-06 22:14:05 UTC  

well lets say the sound system is so loud that it can pollute a neighboring hoa

2018-07-06 22:14:12 UTC  

@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth i agree, such as intellectual property rights 😉

2018-07-06 22:14:56 UTC  

shouldnt there be laws to restrict that from happening too?

2018-07-06 22:15:09 UTC  

the point about property rights is that you are free to contract and modify the terms with other individuals .... the glory of voluntaryism!

2018-07-06 22:15:42 UTC  

but the neighboring hoa had no contractual agreement with you

2018-07-06 22:16:06 UTC  

Sometimes the municipality also has some rules, under which every hoa falls

2018-07-06 22:16:30 UTC  

If your sound "pollutes" a neighboring hoa, then you're likely playing your music louder than the municipality allows

2018-07-06 22:16:43 UTC  

in which case, the police are legally allowed to come to you and stop you

2018-07-06 22:17:17 UTC  

that would all depends on the rest of the ppl... if they dont care for whatever reason... why should there be laws against that if they all explicitly agreed to ngaf about loud music

2018-07-06 22:17:41 UTC  

Well if they all agreed to not care, then none of them would call the cops

2018-07-06 22:17:41 UTC  

on the other hand... just think about it from a homeownership association point of view

2018-07-06 22:17:50 UTC  

yeah, and i think that's a good thing. im arguing that certain limitations to ownership that includes everyone in a juristiction isnt always a bad thing.

2018-07-06 22:17:54 UTC  

thats like a micro government that is consentual

2018-07-06 22:19:42 UTC  

but, @vlnc.co, that is all sorted out in the market economy via explicit contracts and stipulations, etc

2018-07-06 22:20:25 UTC  

you will WANT to negotiate some rights away in return for certain privileges in the real world

2018-07-06 22:21:09 UTC  

like i give up the right to play obnoxiously loud music in my neighborhood in return for the others to agree to the same terms in the homeowner association

2018-07-06 22:21:28 UTC  

it all just boils down to consent and explicit contracts, my friends

2018-07-06 22:22:28 UTC  

"consent of the governed" etc ..... its like we try and masquerade under this idea already but never really bother to think about it deeper

2018-07-06 22:23:47 UTC  

there would still be a *de facto* government in a pure free market economy bcuz of all the contracts that are layered upon each other voluntarily and consentually

2018-07-06 22:24:49 UTC  

a lot of security firms would be run by insurance companies... etc bcuz they have an incentive to keep things peaceful and prevent damages and costs, etc

2018-07-06 22:25:24 UTC  

And then firearms manufacturers would be run by the security firms, or run by the military, like they used to be

2018-07-06 22:26:00 UTC  

PEACE officers... bring them back!

2018-07-06 22:28:29 UTC  

all possible under private (consentual) governance

2018-07-06 22:30:31 UTC  

i like your picture poptarts

2018-07-06 22:32:07 UTC  

lol, thanks ✌

2018-07-06 22:32:58 UTC  

anybody could become their own private firearms manufacturer though... as Cody Wilson has demonstrated .....

2018-07-06 22:33:31 UTC  

Bourdain went to a family that did that in his trip to West VA

2018-07-06 22:33:36 UTC  

RIP btw

2018-07-06 22:34:04 UTC  

they made auto capable ones too

2018-07-06 22:34:22 UTC  

obviously only accessible by the government and PMCs

2018-07-06 22:36:59 UTC  

theres a ton of really good content that the Mises Institute covers on their channel though

2018-07-06 22:37:04 UTC  

just one example

2018-07-06 22:37:11 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend that was very simplistic view

2018-07-06 22:40:18 UTC  

i will take armies of Dale Brown clones over modern police thuggary manufactoring vicitimless crimes any day!

2018-07-06 22:40:56 UTC  

I think tl dr had some personal conflict with sargon before

2018-07-06 22:41:12 UTC  

"numaricly the effect of these people joining the party has seemingly done very little to increase the partys size so far, the party is already very very small relitive to the rest of the partys. its no surprise people who have attention from all over the world have only a fraction of that attention in a single country even if its the largest fraction (though i dont actually think it is the largest fraction for most of them besides maybe dankula), also their attitude when joining the party is in poor spirit"
-simplistic view