Message from @Poptarts
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yes, @vlnc.co, that is the point.... it was voluntary agreement that you made to give up some of the property rights in exchange to live in a particular homeowner association
well lets say the sound system is so loud that it can pollute a neighboring hoa
@>Cytos, de lieve goede synth i agree, such as intellectual property rights 😉
shouldnt there be laws to restrict that from happening too?
the point about property rights is that you are free to contract and modify the terms with other individuals .... the glory of voluntaryism!
but the neighboring hoa had no contractual agreement with you
Sometimes the municipality also has some rules, under which every hoa falls
If your sound "pollutes" a neighboring hoa, then you're likely playing your music louder than the municipality allows
in which case, the police are legally allowed to come to you and stop you
that would all depends on the rest of the ppl... if they dont care for whatever reason... why should there be laws against that if they all explicitly agreed to ngaf about loud music
Well if they all agreed to not care, then none of them would call the cops
on the other hand... just think about it from a homeownership association point of view
yeah, and i think that's a good thing. im arguing that certain limitations to ownership that includes everyone in a juristiction isnt always a bad thing.
thats like a micro government that is consentual
but, @vlnc.co, that is all sorted out in the market economy via explicit contracts and stipulations, etc
you will WANT to negotiate some rights away in return for certain privileges in the real world
like i give up the right to play obnoxiously loud music in my neighborhood in return for the others to agree to the same terms in the homeowner association
it all just boils down to consent and explicit contracts, my friends
"consent of the governed" etc ..... its like we try and masquerade under this idea already but never really bother to think about it deeper
there would still be a *de facto* government in a pure free market economy bcuz of all the contracts that are layered upon each other voluntarily and consentually
a lot of security firms would be run by insurance companies... etc bcuz they have an incentive to keep things peaceful and prevent damages and costs, etc
And then firearms manufacturers would be run by the security firms, or run by the military, like they used to be
PEACE officers... bring them back!
all possible under private (consentual) governance
i like your picture poptarts
lol, thanks ✌
anybody could become their own private firearms manufacturer though... as Cody Wilson has demonstrated .....
Bourdain went to a family that did that in his trip to West VA
RIP btw
they made auto capable ones too
obviously only accessible by the government and PMCs
theres a ton of really good content that the Mises Institute covers on their channel though
just one example
@Arch-Fiend that was very simplistic view
i will take armies of Dale Brown clones over modern police thuggary manufactoring vicitimless crimes any day!
I think tl dr had some personal conflict with sargon before
"numaricly the effect of these people joining the party has seemingly done very little to increase the partys size so far, the party is already very very small relitive to the rest of the partys. its no surprise people who have attention from all over the world have only a fraction of that attention in a single country even if its the largest fraction (though i dont actually think it is the largest fraction for most of them besides maybe dankula), also their attitude when joining the party is in poor spirit"
-simplistic view
His saltyness shows towards the end