Message from @Dr.Wol
Discord ID: 469527083576459274
Even people wearing glasses
It's just thought
Anyone with the ability to think
Was killed
Communism requires ignoring human nature
And that needs special kinds of stupid
Communism requires loyalty! 😛
that is all, if you die, you just weren't loyal enough
The distinction made is death by starvation, death by execution, death by overwork
We're not comparing it to the suffering someone lives through
We're just comparing it to other methods of being cruelly killed
people can die twice you know
its just that the 2nd time, they have to bury your body
lol yeah
See I hear people say that about plenty of things, but then there are people who survive it. It doesn't make the initial action good, but it does draw something of a distinction
the braindeath that causes communist beleifs
and then body death that naturally follows
teh second one can take really long to happen though
Nobody comes back from being dead for 10 years, but people do come back from a hell of a lot of things that take up notably more time
yes
instant death
Or suffering to the point where it doesn't even matter anymore
The implication is that the latter is going to occur in some of the richest and most prosperous countries in the world
i mean what would you rather happen?
an embryo getting killed before it can even develop a self
Or a person getting raped repeatedly between ages 5-11
And then to just be cast under the emotionless protection of the state
I think the better solution is to address the latter
where they are little more than a number
and until you have adressed it?
Rather than fatalistically accept it as inevitable
We live right now in a world where we haven't fixed it
when will it? and how many do you wanna force to live through it until it IS fixed?
Well we're currently not at a point where the test tube hypothetical is viable either
test tube hypothetical doesn't prevent the fate AFTER they are birthed
No, but the solution to the problem should be addressing the system
i agree
but until we do?
Like would you say people with severe birth defects should be aborted?
yeah because regardless of if the person is aborted there are other cases liek the death of parents where someone would suffer under that system
yes
Why do you get to decide this?
anything thats debilitating to their life
Until it’s fixed don’t make taxpayers foot the bill.