Opposing commies isn't wrong think

Even people wearing glasses

It's just thought

Anyone with the ability to think

Was killed

Communism requires ignoring human nature

And that needs special kinds of stupid

Communism requires loyalty! 😛

that is all, if you die, you just weren't loyal enough

The distinction made is death by starvation, death by execution, death by overwork

We're not comparing it to the suffering someone lives through

We're just comparing it to other methods of being cruelly killed

people can die twice you know

its just that the 2nd time, they have to bury your body

lol yeah

See I hear people say that about plenty of things, but then there are people who survive it. It doesn't make the initial action good, but it does draw something of a distinction

the braindeath that causes communist beleifs

and then body death that naturally follows

teh second one can take really long to happen though

Nobody comes back from being dead for 10 years, but people do come back from a hell of a lot of things that take up notably more time

yes

but thats the thing, which is worse?

instant death

Or suffering to the point where it doesn't even matter anymore

The implication is that the latter is going to occur in some of the richest and most prosperous countries in the world

i mean what would you rather happen?

an embryo getting killed before it can even develop a self

Or a person getting raped repeatedly between ages 5-11

And then to just be cast under the emotionless protection of the state

I think the better solution is to address the latter

where they are little more than a number

and until you have adressed it?

Rather than fatalistically accept it as inevitable

We live right now in a world where we haven't fixed it

when will it? and how many do you wanna force to live through it until it IS fixed?

Well we're currently not at a point where the test tube hypothetical is viable either

test tube hypothetical doesn't prevent the fate AFTER they are birthed

No, but the solution to the problem should be addressing the system

i agree

but until we do?

Like would you say people with severe birth defects should be aborted?

yeah because regardless of if the person is aborted there are other cases liek the death of parents where someone would suffer under that system

yes

Why do you get to decide this?

anything thats debilitating to their life