Message from @Dr.Wol
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That does not require you to own the country
Socialism, govt owns the means of production.
Statism, govt regulates the means of production. They can only tell people what not to do. Not what to do.
in REAL socialism, the latter is the case 😉
cuz in REAL socialism, there is no dictator or tyrant either 😉
yeah real socialism hasn't been tried yet
jokes aside,
On paper its the same thing
state controls
The small difference means the world
The difference is in how much
Govt owns the company vs dictating the company
whats it called if you get to dictate every aspect of an object?
Totalitarianism
If its limited to telling the company what not to do
nowhere is stated that thats limited
If you get to control something, you own it
At best in capitalism, the govt cant force a company to do shit.
YOU added "limited"
Other than punish them for not following the law
substantial=total somehow?
NO
FUCKIN
I WILL SHOOT YOU
I WILL FIND YOU
I WILL TAKE OUT YOUR FRONTAL LOBE
AND BLEACH IT
bitch you still gotta escape your own diapers, let alone travel half the world to come get me
Semantics are a bitch yes?
they are
They're a WHORE
Theres difference there, but subjective as hell
the difference is how one would interprate it
This is the kind of situation where newspeak would be nice
substantial = 75% or more imo
Statism does not define how much controll. Only the fact that the govt has some control over some aspects
^ substantial
That can include stuff like protectionism, defense, law enforcement
yes, hence
Socialism is a FORM of statism
That doesn't mean every case of Statism is Socialism
no