Socialism, govt owns the means of production.

Statism, govt regulates the means of production. They can only tell people what not to do. Not what to do.

in REAL socialism, the latter is the case 😉

cuz in REAL socialism, there is no dictator or tyrant either 😉

yeah real socialism hasn't been tried yet

jokes aside,

On paper its the same thing

state controls

The small difference means the world

The difference is in how much

Govt owns the company vs dictating the company

whats it called if you get to dictate every aspect of an object?

Totalitarianism

If its limited to telling the company what not to do

nowhere is stated that thats limited

If you get to control something, you own it

At best in capitalism, the govt cant force a company to do shit.

YOU added "limited"

Other than punish them for not following the law

99.99% is substantial too 😉

substantial=total somehow?

NO

FUCKIN

I WILL SHOOT YOU

I WILL FIND YOU

I WILL TAKE OUT YOUR FRONTAL LOBE

AND BLEACH IT

bitch you still gotta escape your own diapers, let alone travel half the world to come get me

Semantics are a bitch yes?

they are

They're a WHORE

Theres difference there, but subjective as hell

the difference is how one would interprate it

This is the kind of situation where newspeak would be nice

substantial = 75% or more imo

Statism does not define how much controll. Only the fact that the govt has some control over some aspects

^ substantial

That can include stuff like protectionism, defense, law enforcement

yes, hence

Socialism is a FORM of statism

That doesn't mean every case of Statism is Socialism

no

no nononononon