Message from @Awrini
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more over, then the rest of the states will be able to offer help
i said no such thing
rather than everyone drowning
i said it REQUIRES it
Not really.
You can't have a debate without argumentation
It requires an argument, not argumentation.
a debate without argumentation is the Leftist tactic of just shouting over another person
Dennafen
@Grenade123 And if you don't like your government, instead of having 0 real options because the EU and Canada are nuts, you can move states
exactly
although soon there will be no EU at this rate
so maybe there will be options again
@Grenade123 Course you have to be careful about too much polarization
Debates are adversarial by design, you don't care about the other persons points, your interlocutor is the enemy and the audience is the target.
Arguementation is the systematic reasoning that you use to support your arguements
No.
So a debate without arguementation is just bullshit
what is argumentation then?
hold on
@Dennafen what do you define as argumentation?
argumentation is good
fighting is what you are confusing it as
I stop looking at general for five minutes and you guys debate up a 100+ message storm ⛈
Argumentation is the promotion of discovery of truth though discussion. You don't go into it with pre conceived idea of what is right or wrong.
a debate doesn't have to be adversarial
In a debate, you just have 2 opposing stances
And the goal is to try and persuade others to agree with your viewpoint/arguments, so either your opponent, or your audience
what definition did you pull that from?
seriously, what?
because everyone else was using the "the act or process of forming reasons and of drawing conclusions and applying them to a case in discussion" definition
Man i wish we had a debate channel ...for liek debates ....
Lmao 😂
we do, but that channel is in permanent "slow" mode
so you can't talk fast
Oh i didnt even know that
forget something? gotta wait 10 seconds and forget it agian
Argumentation: The Study of Effective Reasoning, 2nd Edition David Zarefsky
and JDM won't take it off slow mo
Is where I got it.