Message from @Dr.Wol
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a family is just a small scale state
you have a family unit, who has an area of land they have fenced in. they have pathways they maintain for moving about, plants to tend to, maintenance on the home, etc. There is also, usually, a hierarchy.
SPREAD THE BUS
>remove the subject of the conversation so we can argue semantics
No thanks fam
ffs
arguing semantics on the internet,
Thats just mandatory in every conversation 😛
so basically make up this entity, give it no parameters, and just say it exists.
This is getting right back to
>any sharing is communism lol
I've started "liberal arts college cringe posting" on Sargon's server where I'll try to post some cringy stuff every day. Do you want me to do it here as well
we call it the state, but what makes it different from the family unit in a fenced in area
i'm not remove the state from the equation, i'm trying to get you to accurately define it
The family unit manages only itself, the state manages the family and all other families
most people agree a family is not hte state, why?
a family unit has a head of house or managers other people.
Because a family unit does not have the authority a state does. Their application of force is limited, and you can bail out on your family
You can only bail out of a state into another state
how does a state have authority?
why does my dad have authority over me?
who grants this authority?
big difference between state and family
Is that you can't just leave and its not your family anymore
But if you leave a state, you're gone
Via the use of force. Your dad only has authority because he can kick you out of his house, usually using the state if you refuse
okay, so he is the state?
No, and if you has read what I said that distinction would be clear
who says its his house?
Your father is not an organization
my family is
he just leads it
he is the president, or maybe my mom is the president. the other parent, vp.
who said this was their house? why can't it be my house?
Your family does not have a military or bureaucracy, and I can leave a family without vying for citizenship with another family
If it's your house your parents only have whatever authority you feasibly give them
And/or whatever sociopathic levels of force they're willing to leverage against their own offspring
Again, this is "any sharing is communism" tier
military is just a form of force, like family has physical strength / a gun
who says you can?
Not to mention the fact that a lot of commies advocate communal childrearing anyway
doesn't that depend on where you are born
what if there is no unclaimed land left
then you need to be either taken into another family, or treated as a refugee.
the other day on r/anarchism they were complaining about being banned from r/communism