Message from @Grenade123

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2018-08-22 15:50:48 UTC  

so a family unit that has a home

2018-08-22 15:50:54 UTC  

At best a family unit in a modern context rents land from a state

2018-08-22 15:51:21 UTC  

remove what you think of as the state currently

2018-08-22 15:52:28 UTC  

a family is just a small scale state

2018-08-22 15:52:38 UTC  

you have a family unit, who has an area of land they have fenced in. they have pathways they maintain for moving about, plants to tend to, maintenance on the home, etc. There is also, usually, a hierarchy.

2018-08-22 15:52:49 UTC  

SPREAD THE BUS

2018-08-22 15:52:49 UTC  

>remove the subject of the conversation so we can argue semantics
No thanks fam

2018-08-22 15:52:55 UTC  

ffs

2018-08-22 15:53:26 UTC  

arguing semantics on the internet,

Thats just mandatory in every conversation 😛

2018-08-22 15:53:36 UTC  

so basically make up this entity, give it no parameters, and just say it exists.

2018-08-22 15:53:38 UTC  

This is getting right back to
>any sharing is communism lol

2018-08-22 15:53:55 UTC  

I've started "liberal arts college cringe posting" on Sargon's server where I'll try to post some cringy stuff every day. Do you want me to do it here as well

2018-08-22 15:53:57 UTC  

we call it the state, but what makes it different from the family unit in a fenced in area

2018-08-22 15:54:11 UTC  

i'm not remove the state from the equation, i'm trying to get you to accurately define it

2018-08-22 15:54:21 UTC  

The family unit manages only itself, the state manages the family and all other families

2018-08-22 15:54:24 UTC  

most people agree a family is not hte state, why?

2018-08-22 15:54:51 UTC  

a family unit has a head of house or managers other people.

2018-08-22 15:54:58 UTC  

Because a family unit does not have the authority a state does. Their application of force is limited, and you can bail out on your family

2018-08-22 15:55:10 UTC  

You can only bail out of a state into another state

2018-08-22 15:55:11 UTC  

how does a state have authority?

2018-08-22 15:55:19 UTC  

why does my dad have authority over me?

2018-08-22 15:55:36 UTC  

who grants this authority?

2018-08-22 15:56:30 UTC  

big difference between state and family

Is that you can't just leave and its not your family anymore

But if you leave a state, you're gone

2018-08-22 15:56:43 UTC  

Via the use of force. Your dad only has authority because he can kick you out of his house, usually using the state if you refuse

2018-08-22 15:57:04 UTC  

okay, so he is the state?

2018-08-22 15:57:26 UTC  

No, and if you has read what I said that distinction would be clear

2018-08-22 15:57:26 UTC  

who says its his house?

2018-08-22 15:57:33 UTC  

Your father is not an organization

2018-08-22 15:57:44 UTC  

my family is

2018-08-22 15:57:48 UTC  

he just leads it

2018-08-22 15:58:07 UTC  

he is the president, or maybe my mom is the president. the other parent, vp.

2018-08-22 15:58:23 UTC  

who said this was their house? why can't it be my house?

2018-08-22 15:58:31 UTC  

Your family does not have a military or bureaucracy, and I can leave a family without vying for citizenship with another family

2018-08-22 15:59:02 UTC  

If it's your house your parents only have whatever authority you feasibly give them

2018-08-22 15:59:21 UTC  

And/or whatever sociopathic levels of force they're willing to leverage against their own offspring

2018-08-22 15:59:39 UTC  

Again, this is "any sharing is communism" tier

2018-08-22 15:59:53 UTC  

military is just a form of force, like family has physical strength / a gun

2018-08-22 16:00:16 UTC  

who says you can?

2018-08-22 16:00:16 UTC  

Not to mention the fact that a lot of commies advocate communal childrearing anyway

2018-08-22 16:00:24 UTC  

doesn't that depend on where you are born