Message from @Beemann

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2018-08-22 15:54:11 UTC  

i'm not remove the state from the equation, i'm trying to get you to accurately define it

2018-08-22 15:54:21 UTC  

The family unit manages only itself, the state manages the family and all other families

2018-08-22 15:54:24 UTC  

most people agree a family is not hte state, why?

2018-08-22 15:54:51 UTC  

a family unit has a head of house or managers other people.

2018-08-22 15:54:58 UTC  

Because a family unit does not have the authority a state does. Their application of force is limited, and you can bail out on your family

2018-08-22 15:55:10 UTC  

You can only bail out of a state into another state

2018-08-22 15:55:11 UTC  

how does a state have authority?

2018-08-22 15:55:19 UTC  

why does my dad have authority over me?

2018-08-22 15:55:36 UTC  

who grants this authority?

2018-08-22 15:56:30 UTC  

big difference between state and family

Is that you can't just leave and its not your family anymore

But if you leave a state, you're gone

2018-08-22 15:56:43 UTC  

Via the use of force. Your dad only has authority because he can kick you out of his house, usually using the state if you refuse

2018-08-22 15:57:04 UTC  

okay, so he is the state?

2018-08-22 15:57:26 UTC  

No, and if you has read what I said that distinction would be clear

2018-08-22 15:57:26 UTC  

who says its his house?

2018-08-22 15:57:33 UTC  

Your father is not an organization

2018-08-22 15:57:44 UTC  

my family is

2018-08-22 15:57:48 UTC  

he just leads it

2018-08-22 15:58:07 UTC  

he is the president, or maybe my mom is the president. the other parent, vp.

2018-08-22 15:58:23 UTC  

who said this was their house? why can't it be my house?

2018-08-22 15:58:31 UTC  

Your family does not have a military or bureaucracy, and I can leave a family without vying for citizenship with another family

2018-08-22 15:59:02 UTC  

If it's your house your parents only have whatever authority you feasibly give them

2018-08-22 15:59:21 UTC  

And/or whatever sociopathic levels of force they're willing to leverage against their own offspring

2018-08-22 15:59:39 UTC  

Again, this is "any sharing is communism" tier

2018-08-22 15:59:53 UTC  

military is just a form of force, like family has physical strength / a gun

2018-08-22 16:00:16 UTC  

who says you can?

2018-08-22 16:00:16 UTC  

Not to mention the fact that a lot of commies advocate communal childrearing anyway

2018-08-22 16:00:24 UTC  

doesn't that depend on where you are born

2018-08-22 16:00:30 UTC  

what if there is no unclaimed land left

2018-08-22 16:00:43 UTC  

then you need to be either taken into another family, or treated as a refugee.

2018-08-22 16:01:01 UTC  

the other day on r/anarchism they were complaining about being banned from r/communism

2018-08-22 16:01:06 UTC  

talking about how the left is ban happy

2018-08-22 16:01:12 UTC  

the irony was lost on them unfortauntely

2018-08-22 16:01:17 UTC  

😛

2018-08-22 16:01:26 UTC  

cooled off a bit have you Tim?

2018-08-22 16:02:56 UTC  

"In my experience, both r/communism and r/socialism are not very friendly places. Try the 101 versions of each."

like r/anarchism

2018-08-22 16:03:11 UTC  

they are so close to realizing they are not actually all that good as people

2018-08-22 16:04:25 UTC  

do I have any interest in the college posting? didn't get a response and there's some really spicy stuff around here

2018-08-22 16:04:50 UTC  

they're close, the only thing to break it is people telling them that, so they kick them, so no one can tell the truth, and they can live in their lie

2018-08-22 16:05:08 UTC  

Cringe stuff? we have several people here that bring cringe constantly

2018-08-22 16:05:23 UTC  

from my college specifically