Message from @Perception

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2019-08-15 21:08:11 UTC  

theocracy is based if its the right religion

2019-08-15 21:08:13 UTC  

white supremacy is also dumbassery

2019-08-15 21:09:08 UTC  

terrorists aren't specific to one ideology lol

2019-08-15 21:09:20 UTC  

i imagine people would know this by now

2019-08-15 21:09:21 UTC  

islam is the worst of all religions

2019-08-15 21:09:30 UTC  

its a medieval cult

2019-08-15 21:09:48 UTC  

can you give me a solid reason to believe that

2019-08-15 21:09:55 UTC  

other than "its a cult"

2019-08-15 21:10:10 UTC  

well they have a thing for killing people

2019-08-15 21:10:19 UTC  

lots of people

2019-08-15 21:10:22 UTC  

thats nothing to do with Islam as an ideology

2019-08-15 21:10:30 UTC  

that's to do with its followers maybe

2019-08-15 21:10:36 UTC  

in some parts of the world where there is war

2019-08-15 21:10:37 UTC  

Islam has had trouble progressing past 600 AD

2019-08-15 21:11:12 UTC  

oh and muslims want me dead

2019-08-15 21:11:15 UTC  

thats a big one

2019-08-15 21:11:24 UTC  

Islam hasn't changed which makes it true traditionalism maybe but then that becomes a question of why traditionalism is wrong

2019-08-15 21:11:41 UTC  

doing something simply because its tradition is dumb

2019-08-15 21:11:46 UTC  

tradition does not automatically mean good

2019-08-15 21:11:52 UTC  

there are plenty of bad traditions

2019-08-15 21:11:56 UTC  

also if we're discussing Islam then what Muslims do/subjectively want is irrelevant in this

2019-08-15 21:12:26 UTC  

Yes but traditionalism isn't necessarily bad

2019-08-15 21:12:49 UTC  

so do you think the killing of homosexuals and women who don't conver is wrong?

2019-08-15 21:12:54 UTC  

wife beating?

2019-08-15 21:13:22 UTC  

the killing of homosexuals is if its done publicly, I don't think anyone likes to see two people having intercourse in public

2019-08-15 21:13:39 UTC  

its done to protect society from degeneracy

2019-08-15 21:14:01 UTC  

if you're gay then you can continue being gay as long as you keep it behind closed doors

2019-08-15 21:14:09 UTC  

no one has any right to spy on you either

2019-08-15 21:14:28 UTC  

i don't think thats what happens in the middle east...

2019-08-15 21:14:34 UTC  

The role of the church is to provide an example of objective morals within a society. Even as we speak, the tenants of Christian values are evident in the way the majority of American conduct. If I had to pick a church that the state would promote, it would be a toss up between the LDS faith (due to its heavy emphasis on family values and that the family is eternal) or the Cosmothesists (since they think in terms of eternity rather than the instant gratification of the individual).

2019-08-15 21:14:56 UTC  

The issue today is that the middle east isn't actually ruled according to Islamic law

2019-08-15 21:15:16 UTC  

they take certain aspects of it and apply it, but in reality its secular

2019-08-15 21:15:23 UTC  

>that isn't the true islam

2019-08-15 21:15:36 UTC  

every Muslim ever

2019-08-15 21:15:45 UTC  

I'm not making the commie excuse of "its never been applied" if thats what you're implying

2019-08-15 21:15:51 UTC  

sometimes i feel like Muslims are as divided as Christians

2019-08-15 21:16:05 UTC  

If you want to know Islamic law then look at the previous caliphates that applied Islamic law

2019-08-15 21:16:23 UTC  

Ottomans, Ummayads, Abbasids and the list goes on

2019-08-15 21:17:01 UTC  

Ottomans for example had many non Muslims living under them

2019-08-15 21:17:13 UTC  

many cities had non Muslim majority

2019-08-15 21:17:36 UTC  

if they were so oppressed living under the Muslims then how did they last for hundreds of years