What’s Hamilton’s rule?

Oh ok inclusive fitness

I agree that inclusive fitness is real but it can be unified with ethnocentric or genetic similarity theory; you interact with those that look like you

Whites are more comfortable and trustworthy among whites, not just their immediate and extended family

So I guess they are proposing an even longer chain of inclusive fitness with some hard demarcation points; racism. Some people really won’t trade or economically interact or reproduce with another race

Such as how Ashkenazim Jews have to a large extent kept themselves genetically excluded from other populations for quite a long time, the genetic cluster is moving together in a way, in a “groupish” way

Like just to add another point look at how Identity Europa makes European descent a membership requirement

I think we are slowly erecting barriers, as we should, reproductively, economically etc and only interacting with ourselves to a large degree and I think strategies like this are the beginning to a “group evolutionary strategy” or an experiment in living

Whites are different than most groups and that is why we are in trouble, and a poor example of ethnocentrism or group selection since we probably were not under as much group selection while up in the north according to Kevin Macdonald. We act more on an individualist style. And I don’t disagree that some Religions can operate across ethnic boundaries but that doesn’t mean it is a better strategy compared to religion that is highly homogenous. The more homogenous a religion/group/society the more trust and cooperation because you can bet those that look like you have more of your genes and that is probably how xenophobia, Ethnocentrism racism etc arose. and so I would argue that racial ingroup preference is TOTALLY a genetic trait and would probably arise cause the more accurately you can determine who has your similar genes the better it would be to know who to mate and with for genetic similarity.

So Altruism can increase if you keep yours genetically closed off for quite a time because everyone will become more similar to each other. Nothing close to inbreeding of course, but I would emphasize Ashkenazim Jews ARE unique because they are the only people to be a dispersed or diaspora people to erect genetic barriers. To do so without a physical nation is an impressive feat

I wouldn’t know any of that and I’m missing the point really

Oh ok

Well then I would just say whether anybody is unique or not I would just like to make the point that very little outbreeding is far superior in competition to other mixing of races so I’m just trying to say the Ashkenazim are a good case study of group selection and whites are a poor example unless we are giving a lot of motive to do so. I’m just trying to affirm group selection

Have you checked out Kevin Macdonalds work on Judaism?

It is a good case for group selection

I’m currently reading his first book and a lot of people don’t address his and David Wilson’s claims directly. They usually strawman

Which is understandable cause if you accept group selection for humans people are going to start looking at Kevin Macdonalds work more

That specific book doesn’t I don’t believe. I can look through David Sloan Wilson’s paper at the top and see what he has to say though. He makes a good case

I’ll type out a quote and tell me what you think. A lot of it still evades me

The
rejection of group selection was based largely on
theoretical plausibility arguments (5, 11), which made it
seem that between-group selection requires a delicate
balance of parameter values to prevail against within-group
selection. These early models were published at a time when
D. S. Wilson and E. O. Wilson 8
the desktop computing revolution, complexity theory, and
appreciation of such things as social control (12) and
cultural transmission (13, 14) were barely on the horizon.
It therefore means something when group selection has become
more plausible, according to more recent theoretical models.
All of the early models assumed that altruistic and
selfish behaviors are caused directly by corresponding
genes, which means that the only way for groups to vary
behaviorally is for them to vary genetically. Hardly anyone
regards such strict genetic determinism as biologically
realistic today. And in fact it was assumed in the models
primarily to simplify the mathematics. Yet, when more
complex genotype-phenotype relationships are built into the
models, the balance between levels of selection can be
easily and dramatically altered (15).

Their models are getting more accurate and certain assumptions which are faulty are being overturned. I can give you another example from the paper of how if, within a population of bacteria, to many cheaters reproduce the population will fail. So once again composition of groups can determine a "shared fate" for groups

Although this isn't a human example, it is at least one example for bacteria.

Some of the best recent evidence for group selection comes from microbial organisms, in part because they are such efficient systems for ecological and evolutionary research spanning many generations.

The "wrinkly spreader" (WS) strain of Pseudomonas fluorescens evolves in response to anoxic conditions in unmixed liquid medium, by producing a cellulosic polymer that forms a mat on the surface. The polymer is expensive to produce, which means that nonproducing "cheaters" have the highest relative fitness within the group.

As the cheaters spread, the mat deteriorates and eventually sinks to the bottom. WS is maintained in the total population by between-group selection, despite its selective disadvantage within groups, exactly as envisioned by multilevel selection theory (Rainey and Rainey 2003)

ya as their models get more accurate it'll be exciting to see what happens

What do you mean?

What isnt true

The Evolutionary Dominance of Ethnocentric Cooperation

http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html

This is also a good read my friends. I think I’ve posted this elsewhere I forget. It is about ethnocentrism dominating all other strategies

In this simulation model

Ethnocentrism is a robust strategy and worked in other models also and under other initial variables so researchers determine this is not a “knife-edge effect” but, once again, a robust evolutionary stable strategy. Methinks if whites don’t adopt it soon we won’t be able to compete.

They are on to you

Which topic? Ethnocentrism?

I think this one is “The Evolutionary Dominance of Ethnocentrism”

Errr ethnocentric cooperation. But he is right and is probably referring to the same thing

Ok sweet I’m to lazy sorry I’ll

Lol

I’ll was supposed to be lol

We need a meme force

An IE meme force

I guess we already got one eh?

Develop a humorous memetic culture

Meme soldiers

He was the rapist or the rapee?

Was he raped?

@Axel do you know anything about that? We could have an IE unofficial and unconnected in a way, to create virulent meme cultures beneficial for our ideas

Hhhmmmm it’s a strange world. He could have raped himself for all I know

With a phantom hand

Cause obviously there are people creating memes just for funnies

But a meme think tank

Like #notallorcs

I like that

And they would have think tank sessions. Memes are humorous and can reverse brainwashing a lot

NPC meme was fascinatingly effective

I shouldn’t be dirtying the evolution chat with this

BUT NAY

It is memes

Evolution

Baby we are back

Do you think it couldn’t be done though @Mick

Because the very nature of successful memes is that they are hard to predict how successful they will be or how memetic

You can get a lot of duds

And suddenly mine an NPC meme that is devastatingly effective

Ya an effective meme. Communicated a lot in just a few ideas

Take beef brain and beef liver instead of synthetic vitamins

Ancestral Supplements has good ones. I highly recommend

Nah not really. Take them slow though cause there can be detox symptoms

Cause there are a ton of nutrients in brain and liver helping the cells to function properly

So Africans have neither Neanderthal nor this third source introgression?

Hey is there a way we can ever get “To Learn more go to www.identityevropa.com” on the bottom of our flyers

And sorry if I’m misinformed but is there a way to change the wiki page of Identity Evropa for ourselves or is that something we do? Is it a protected wiki page?

The Evolutionary Psychology textbook by David buss

Talks about Nature allows nurture in a few chapters

There is no “nature vs nurture” but that nature is the foundation that allows nurture to occur. Culture is on a leash and biology holds that leash

@CarletonJ Was this recent?

True dedication

One man think tanks. We need more of them

Traditional diets with bone broths and good information that is contrary to conventional wisdom. It can give you some insight possibly in what to do to heal a child’s GI tract

It’s good nutritional food that could help heal her and breastfeeding for 2 years helps build a robust child

@Sherman Hardcastle - CA Idaho is super mormon right? Similar to Utah from what I know. But I’ve only been there once

@Kaledin - SD I usually get it from my dad who hunts and we tried doing liver pate but stopped and mainly dehydrate it and put it in pills. But I’d recommend doing both. Right now I’m only doing pills of deer and cow liver

@Kaledin - SD and I don’t know much about water pollution etc. I’m mainly focusing on food at the moment

@Kaledin - SD oh sorry and portions for me are 2 servings of the Ancestral Supplement brain and liver daily; 12 pills

The ones I linked above

Nice nice. It truly is a superfood

He is suing SPLC?

https://philipperushton.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/race-genetic-similarity-rushton-indoctrinability-warfare-ideology-1998.pdf

Lol that is awesome pic

Paper about ethnocentrism and genetic similarity theory as an extension of kin selection mechanisms

So where is this JQ and HDB compilation? @JC17-OR

Can I check it out?

What do you guys know about Think or Swim app? It’s like where you trade with fake currency and it mirrors the stock market so you see how your strategies work. Do any of you mess around with that?

I haven’t started trading yet. I have a trading account with E*TRADE but I haven’t put any money in it yet

Gimlet 100% European Phenotype

Legions of Libtards pwned

https://youtu.be/Bw6eYJ_8S-c

anyone seen this?