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2020-11-06 02:23:07 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

Welcome to Lehtos Law

2020-11-06 02:23:14 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

you heard that in a female voice

2020-11-06 02:23:49 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

@Gypsy I wouldn't know if he is objective, because there is no one countering

2020-11-06 02:23:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

#thatstheproblem

2020-11-06 02:24:50 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #scotus]  

`felt sympathetic towards the professor` rofl

2020-11-06 02:25:11 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

he hardly covers political issues except very recently

2020-11-06 02:25:21 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

Legal Eagle on Rittenhouse plx

2020-11-06 02:26:14 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

haha

2020-11-06 02:26:30 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

useful lawyers lawyer, the rest get on youtube?

2020-11-06 02:27:20 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

@Zuluzeit whenever you use sarcasm you confuse me

2020-11-06 02:27:34 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic, and either way it comes off kinda bad

2020-11-06 02:27:39 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I'm sure you sound much better over voice

2020-11-06 02:27:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

(:

2020-11-06 02:29:11 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

yea I mean I watch the same people

2020-11-06 02:29:17 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

its just boring without the other side

2020-11-06 02:31:24 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

Go Fundme shutting down Rittenhouse red pilled to something

2020-11-06 02:31:39 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

the entire bifurcation of that case in the media really changed something in me

2020-11-06 02:32:34 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

lol

2020-11-06 02:32:55 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I wasn't fine, but before I was mad at the media; after I accepted and wasn't mad anymore, but just shocked

2020-11-06 02:33:53 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

basically I consider FB, Twitter, and popnews media as simply a part of the DNC, and then write them off (now)

2020-11-06 02:34:05 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

instead of ever expecting it to change, I now want and encourage bifurcation

2020-11-06 02:34:18 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

this is one of the reasons I don't want "section 230 reform" or other such nonsense

2020-11-06 02:34:26 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I don't want to fix twitter or FB

2020-11-06 02:34:30 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I want them to die

2020-11-06 02:34:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

and they are on the verge of being in danger of losing their natural monopoly

2020-11-06 02:35:04 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I've closed my FB and twitter accounts

2020-11-06 02:35:27 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

over the last year, a dozen competitors to FB twitter and youtube have tried to compete with the big tech corps

2020-11-06 02:35:34 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

that's fine with me

2020-11-06 02:35:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

being unified just means you have the illusion of not being in a parallel system

2020-11-06 02:35:58 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

basically it is parallel _already_ except one side has no infrastructure at all

2020-11-06 02:36:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

(but I do think they will die eventually, because by having 2 systems, they no longer have a natural monopoly of social networks)

2020-11-06 02:37:16 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

that's fine

2020-11-06 02:37:22 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I mean we are headed to that anyway

2020-11-06 02:37:26 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

it is an orthogonal problem

2020-11-06 02:37:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

being together won't solve it

2020-11-06 02:38:01 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

(one side would just get censored out whenver the two sides cross paths)

2020-11-06 02:40:13 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

here is the two things to weigh:

OTOH

A. you are basically donating money to the DNC by being on such a platform, and basically giving free ad time to the DNC


OTOH

B. you are together with the other side and mitigate some of the false caricaturing

2020-11-06 02:40:30 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I choose not to donate and give free ad space

2020-11-06 02:40:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

it isn't worth whatever social gain there is by staying unified

2020-11-06 02:42:07 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

:squinty eyes:

2020-11-06 02:42:38 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

look, let me reframe this

2020-11-06 02:42:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I don't really care for a bifurcation of a censored left and a censored right

2020-11-06 02:43:27 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

ideally the bifurcation for social media would be a censored left, and an uncensored apartisan (basically something equivalent to a "public square" minus pornography)

2020-11-06 02:43:51 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

however, I doubt that the left would find it socially acceptable to visit the "nazi servers" to talk

2020-11-06 02:44:01 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

so it would essentially be bifurcated anyway

2020-11-06 02:46:56 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

1. I see the censorship by big tech as the fault of one side of the partisan divide,

2. I [now] see the big tech corps as political organizations,

3. I refuse to participate in contributing politically to them, tribalism or not. If this results in tribalism, that is Not My Problem; it is the fault of the big tech corps, and modernity (social media, the internet, large scale human networking capabilities, etc. naturally results in tribalism)

4. I don't think being on a single platform reduces tribalism; already on twitter there are people who never speak to the "other side" except in angry 200 character spats that does nothing to help the caricatures.

2020-11-06 02:50:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I don't want 230 reform for censorship

2020-11-06 02:50:49 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I do want 230 reform for the blanket immunity that Barnes talks about

2020-11-06 02:50:54 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

but not for censorship

2020-11-06 02:51:36 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I don't think 230 is even needed to protect websites, it is unconstitutional IMO to hold websites liable for their user-contributed content

2020-11-06 02:51:58 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

Benjamin Franklin didn't analyze every ad that was in his newspaper to see if might be defamation

2020-11-06 02:52:04 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

@Zuluzeit later

2020-11-06 02:52:31 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

and 230 reform, if done dumbly, can destroy the internet

2020-11-06 02:54:55 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

basically the "public square" version of 230 reform ... what does this mean for you and your blog?


You have two choices.

1. You can either leave up all comments unmolested.

2. If you delete a single comment, you now must analyze EVERY OTHER COMMENT for legality. Which is actually IMPOSSIBLE to do, because - for example, defamation might require knowledge of facts (i.e if something said is TRUE or FALSE), and this is impossible for a site owner. Furthermore, it would basically require you to hire a lawyer and check every comment for all the laws in all the US.

2020-11-06 02:55:06 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

say helloooo to spam

2020-11-06 02:55:09 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

or pornography

2020-11-06 02:55:16 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

all over your beautiful blog or forum

2020-11-06 02:55:27 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

public square, right?

2020-11-06 02:55:43 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

OK so that is Barnes' fix to this

2020-11-06 02:55:47 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

most people don't event hink about this

2020-11-06 02:55:48 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

they just talk

2020-11-06 02:55:57 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

but the 70% fix isn't a good one either

2020-11-06 02:56:03 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

if you have a FB page

2020-11-06 02:56:08 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

you are a moderator

2020-11-06 02:56:09 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

on a website

2020-11-06 02:56:15 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

that is a 70% company

2020-11-06 02:56:19 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

your page is a public square

2020-11-06 02:56:23 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

hello spam

2020-11-06 02:56:25 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

hello porn

2020-11-06 02:56:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

also I detest treating differently sized companies differently

2020-11-06 02:56:55 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

and I already made the constitutional argument

2020-11-06 02:57:00 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

it is illegal to force companies to do this

2020-11-06 02:57:10 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

just like it would be illegal to restrict a newspaper from deliverying you ads that might be illegal speech

2020-11-06 02:57:29 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

or charging Fedex for delivering blackmail

2020-11-06 05:10:17 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

@Doc pretty sure I've seen that

2020-11-06 05:10:21 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I didn't say anything (never helping out the) cops

2020-11-06 05:10:22 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I said I wouldn't speak to the FBI, even to help them without my lawyer

2020-11-06 05:10:41 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

as for the cops, yes, follow his advice

2020-11-06 05:10:59 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

(tldr; if you kill someone in self defense you want to point out all the evidence so the cops mark it down, and you don't want to come off as a jerk either)

2020-11-06 05:13:03 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

ASP is great

2020-11-06 05:13:14 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I have Ayoob's books I think

2020-11-06 05:13:34 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

ASP did a great analysis of the Atlanta story with Brooks

2020-11-06 05:14:26 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

(I would speak to the cops if I thought I could help them catch a bad person)

2020-11-06 05:14:35 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

(but I wouldn't do it for the FBI, except via a lawyer)

2020-11-06 05:15:02 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

btw many lawyers disagree with Ayoob (IIRC he mentions that)

2020-11-06 05:15:11 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

because people can't be trusted to say the right thing

2020-11-06 05:15:25 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

that is why people like Ayoob basically tell people to "train" for the situation

2020-11-06 05:15:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

i.e make believe shoot someone in self defense and imagine being in front of a cop, and rehearse things to say

2020-11-06 05:16:34 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I've read Branca's book on self defense (it's about legalities of self defense), and he says something similar IIRC

2020-11-06 05:16:53 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

don't quote me here, but he basically tells people to train themselves to say rehearsed lines

2020-11-06 05:17:09 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

read the book its pretty good (but IANAL)

2020-11-06 05:17:18 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #rittenhouse]  

I wonder if Robert has read it and what he thinks of it

2020-11-06 05:17:55 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #general-chat]  

rofl

2020-11-06 14:46:46 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

There is a response from someone on twitter I read, it requires much more samples to converge to something reliable

2020-11-06 14:46:55 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

Sec I'll find it

2020-11-06 15:18:53 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The mistake is to think of a state as a personality

2020-11-06 15:19:45 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

The Dems spent the last two months sending people an insane number of text messages and phone calls, and they had plenty of tools to rile up their voters

2020-11-06 15:20:15 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

They have areas that are heavily populated, and increased voter turnout

2020-11-06 15:21:01 UTC [RobertGrulerEsq #election2020]  

This year allowed several methods of convenience for voting that could very well have by itself changed the likely voter distribution

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