article: "blow", me: this is what I see

the title is misleading, true, but the proposition itself is clear

`A "yes" vote supports this constitutional amendment to repeal Proposition 209 (1996), which stated that the government and public institutions cannot discriminate against or grant preferential treatment to persons on the basis of race, sex, color, ethnicity, or national origin in public employment, public education, and public contracting.`

`government and public institutions cannot discriminate against or grant preferential treatment to persons on the basis of race ...`

supporters of racial discrimination have a name

racists

@LrnAshly curious, I don't want to go searching through the history, can you summarize what you saw with your own eyes?

@DeathRhodes666 .


"The law says that if you are violating any crime, self defense doesn't apply. Kyle was out after Curfew, and he was illegally carrying a weapon, so ..."

"Everyone who was trying to stop him was trying to stop an armed man with a gun, who murdered someone (Rosenbaum); does a school shooter get to claim self defense when kids throw themselves at him trying to stop him?"

you can find clips of Vaush and Destiny on youtube, where Vaush makes such arguments and Destiny is shaking his head slowly

(if you are a masochist)

when I saw it, it was a clipped version, I can only find full episode versions right now

I can link one of those if you are a serious masochist

OK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_0R_aiPb-s there seems to be a few such debates, I think this is the one

uh I am not the one saying it, I was quoting a standin leftist. But yes, the law does say that, Robert covered it. Lemme see if I can find he law

he was carrying

maybe

it is interpretable and probably has case law

Robert has said that it would probably not be constitutional to make such an argument either

I think he said he didn't know offhand

Robert brought up the constitutional response

@xephael https://law.justia.com/codes/wisconsin/2014/chapter-939/section-939.48

@xephael I agree

> And additionally what is your basis for saying he was carrying a firearm illegally? He was open carrying
@LrnAshly Wisconsin law has a minimum age of 18 for firearms, with a possible exception for hunting, so it is unclear if it was legal for him to carry

> if blue win, can I get political refuge in US?
@TomWiliam += One Past Last Jedi ?

> If he gets convicted it’s entirely on his defense team
@Gypsy Yea Barnes constantly rails on them

@LrnAshly the latter

I've read the law and the exception for hunting

I dunno what to make of it

with that logic though, you can find someone in breach of some law after they defend themselves 🙂

@xephael the guys running it are the covington case lawyers

@Maw omg I am still listening to this in the background no wonder I am irate

@LrnAshly I'm pretty sure that people carrying illegally, and use it in self defense, are routinely not charged for murder, but I dunno about WI

but also, I think the constitutoinal argument is strong as well; a state has no right to stop you from your constitutional right to arm yourself, in the case of you defending yourself, which is an obvious right attached to the 2nd amendment, which means applying that law to being armed illegally is unconstitutional

@Maw yea that law was written very sloppily IMO

it could be interpreted to basically destroy the self defense argument; they merely have to find some law you are breaking at the time

there are defenses to that

I've listed a few

there are probably more

@LrnAshly it doesn't matter, the aggressor had no knowledge of his age

I bet you are committing a crime right now 😛

it is very hard not to commit crimes in the US

@xephael I explained, it is a grey area if it is legal for a 17 year old to carry in WI

@TheParamedicGamer they did charge him with it

@TheParamedicGamer one of the charges is possession

@LrnAshly don't take offense, we are just responding to the Devil 😛

@TheParamedicGamer ah

@TheParamedicGamer yea maybe who knows

lol

@TheParamedicGamer right

@TheParamedicGamer yea i agreed with your point about curfew

> Rittenhouse has legal aid offered by GOA (gun owners of america) and they're not exactly dolts
@xephael Go listen to Barnes on Frei, he rants about the lawyers in charge

Maw the Fox, just mentioned

thanks for moderating 🙂

@Maw there are some very political federal prosecutors

SDNY is railed on by Barnes

SDNY put Frei's show in a legal document trying to convince the court to gag someone, and using Frei's show as an example of information getting out of hand. Next day, Frei's show blew up. Robert has to figure out how to get mentioned in SDNY filings.

lol

unfortunately there are not a lot of lawyers on the internet discussing politics

there are some other good ones, but they stay away from politics like the plague

alas there are no left wing lawyers that I know of, aside from Legal Eagle recently (that discuss politics)

Legal Eagle doesn't cover everything, only the things he picks

so no Rittenhouse discussion by a left wing lawyer

if you have a Rittenhouse discussion by a left wing lawyer, please please link

but left wing lawyers get these guys off the hook all the time for carrying illegally but using self defense

lol

🤦‍♂️

link plx

@Maw just gimme names

I collect lawyer channels

😦

`Lheto` is awesome

but not political

`Nate` closest to left, but not left

@Gypsy he agreed with the rest

self defense.

he called himself centrist recently

`NEVER TALK TO THE POLICE` the video titled with this title is the best

and that lawyer is amazing

have you seen it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

watch this once a year

😛

should be required watching for schools

oh man

as long as the FBI has that law about lying to them

I aint ever being helpful to them about nothing without a lawyer

this is anecdotal

it is worrying enough to cause an investigation

not to reach a conclusion

(IMO)

yea if Lehto would get political, he'd lose half his audience (though maybe he'd gain some more)

but it wouldn't be Lehto anymore

I don't want him ruining his show

but I do want some counter to Viva Frei, Uncivil Law, Nate The Lawyer, and our very own Robert

and I don't see that

oh and Rekieta

@Gypsy Lehto?

yea well he keeps you guessing

and that is a good thing