Message from @realz

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2020-11-06 02:56:15 UTC  

that is a 70% company

2020-11-06 02:56:19 UTC  

your page is a public square

2020-11-06 02:56:23 UTC  

hello spam

2020-11-06 02:56:25 UTC  

hello porn

2020-11-06 02:56:45 UTC  

also I detest treating differently sized companies differently

2020-11-06 02:56:55 UTC  

and I already made the constitutional argument

2020-11-06 02:57:00 UTC  

it is illegal to force companies to do this

2020-11-06 02:57:10 UTC  

just like it would be illegal to restrict a newspaper from deliverying you ads that might be illegal speech

2020-11-06 02:57:29 UTC  

or charging Fedex for delivering blackmail

2020-11-06 03:07:27 UTC  

Multiple arguments there, fave topic of mine, maybe we need a new chat lol

2020-11-06 03:08:04 UTC  

Can we have a Free Speech / Section 230 chat Mr Gruler plis? 😁

2020-11-06 05:10:17 UTC  

@Doc pretty sure I've seen that

2020-11-06 05:10:21 UTC  

I didn't say anything (never helping out the) cops

2020-11-06 05:10:22 UTC  

I said I wouldn't speak to the FBI, even to help them without my lawyer

2020-11-06 05:10:41 UTC  

as for the cops, yes, follow his advice

2020-11-06 05:10:59 UTC  

(tldr; if you kill someone in self defense you want to point out all the evidence so the cops mark it down, and you don't want to come off as a jerk either)

2020-11-06 05:13:03 UTC  

ASP is great

2020-11-06 05:13:14 UTC  

I have Ayoob's books I think

2020-11-06 05:13:34 UTC  

ASP did a great analysis of the Atlanta story with Brooks

2020-11-06 05:14:26 UTC  

(I would speak to the cops if I thought I could help them catch a bad person)

2020-11-06 05:14:35 UTC  

(but I wouldn't do it for the FBI, except via a lawyer)

2020-11-06 05:15:02 UTC  

btw many lawyers disagree with Ayoob (IIRC he mentions that)

2020-11-06 05:15:11 UTC  

because people can't be trusted to say the right thing

2020-11-06 05:15:25 UTC  

that is why people like Ayoob basically tell people to "train" for the situation

2020-11-06 05:15:46 UTC  

i.e make believe shoot someone in self defense and imagine being in front of a cop, and rehearse things to say

2020-11-06 05:16:34 UTC  

I've read Branca's book on self defense (it's about legalities of self defense), and he says something similar IIRC

2020-11-06 05:16:53 UTC  

don't quote me here, but he basically tells people to train themselves to say rehearsed lines

2020-11-06 05:17:09 UTC  

read the book its pretty good (but IANAL)

2020-11-06 05:17:18 UTC  

I wonder if Robert has read it and what he thinks of it

2020-11-06 13:04:07 UTC  

Anyone else watch the video of his last hearing? I was confused as to why Huber's father and Grosskreutz were even there and their statements solicited by the court commissioner

2020-11-06 13:04:48 UTC  

A Kenosha reporter answered my question on Twitter - this year, the state of Wisconsin passed a constitutional amendment by ballot initiative called Marcy's Law which added a host of "victims rights" during court process

2020-11-06 13:05:15 UTC  

which seems...kinda odd to me, since a trial is about the State vs the Defendant, but, ok. One of those rights is that victims can speak at any and every hearing.

2020-11-06 13:05:52 UTC  

Of course, the logic is somewhat flawed because this law stacks the deck against the defendant by insisting that there are "Victims" and, therefore, a crime must have occurred against them because they are "Victims"

2020-11-06 13:06:07 UTC  

all of this before the defendant has had a chance to even make a statement about their innocence

2020-11-06 13:29:50 UTC  

@Neph (Nec) / Krystaps (War) If you are referring to the Rittenhouse case that change in Michigan law has no bearing on a Wisconsin state court.

2020-11-06 13:30:09 UTC  

oh woops i wrote Michigan, haha

2020-11-06 13:30:11 UTC  

I meant Wisconsin. 🙂

2020-11-06 13:30:14 UTC  

thanks for picking that up

2020-11-06 13:30:22 UTC  

as a New Yorker, I get those two states confused all the time. I'll edit my post

2020-11-06 13:49:32 UTC  

Just making sure