Message from @realz

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2020-11-06 02:51:58 UTC  

And with that, I take my leave.

2020-11-06 02:51:58 UTC  

Benjamin Franklin didn't analyze every ad that was in his newspaper to see if might be defamation

2020-11-06 02:52:04 UTC  

@Zuluzeit later

2020-11-06 02:52:31 UTC  

and 230 reform, if done dumbly, can destroy the internet

2020-11-06 02:53:21 UTC  

Yeah the 230 reform would reduce censorship, not increase it.

2020-11-06 02:54:12 UTC  

Defamation is relevant when it affects the individual defamed... ie Rittenhouse when Biden suggested he was a white supremacist, potentially polluting the jury pool

2020-11-06 02:54:36 UTC  

Haha most laws if done dumbly destroy stuff

2020-11-06 02:54:55 UTC  

basically the "public square" version of 230 reform ... what does this mean for you and your blog?


You have two choices.

1. You can either leave up all comments unmolested.

2. If you delete a single comment, you now must analyze EVERY OTHER COMMENT for legality. Which is actually IMPOSSIBLE to do, because - for example, defamation might require knowledge of facts (i.e if something said is TRUE or FALSE), and this is impossible for a site owner. Furthermore, it would basically require you to hire a lawyer and check every comment for all the laws in all the US.

2020-11-06 02:55:06 UTC  

say helloooo to spam

2020-11-06 02:55:09 UTC  

or pornography

2020-11-06 02:55:16 UTC  

all over your beautiful blog or forum

2020-11-06 02:55:27 UTC  

public square, right?

2020-11-06 02:55:33 UTC  

Not at all. Unless your blog has 70% of all blog traffic lol

2020-11-06 02:55:43 UTC  

OK so that is Barnes' fix to this

2020-11-06 02:55:47 UTC  

most people don't event hink about this

2020-11-06 02:55:48 UTC  

they just talk

2020-11-06 02:55:49 UTC  

Standard definition of monopoly

2020-11-06 02:55:55 UTC  

Yeah nah

2020-11-06 02:55:57 UTC  

but the 70% fix isn't a good one either

2020-11-06 02:56:03 UTC  

if you have a FB page

2020-11-06 02:56:08 UTC  

you are a moderator

2020-11-06 02:56:09 UTC  

on a website

2020-11-06 02:56:15 UTC  

that is a 70% company

2020-11-06 02:56:19 UTC  

your page is a public square

2020-11-06 02:56:23 UTC  

hello spam

2020-11-06 02:56:25 UTC  

hello porn

2020-11-06 02:56:45 UTC  

also I detest treating differently sized companies differently

2020-11-06 02:56:55 UTC  

and I already made the constitutional argument

2020-11-06 02:57:00 UTC  

it is illegal to force companies to do this

2020-11-06 02:57:10 UTC  

just like it would be illegal to restrict a newspaper from deliverying you ads that might be illegal speech

2020-11-06 02:57:29 UTC  

or charging Fedex for delivering blackmail

2020-11-06 03:07:27 UTC  

Multiple arguments there, fave topic of mine, maybe we need a new chat lol

2020-11-06 03:08:04 UTC  

Can we have a Free Speech / Section 230 chat Mr Gruler plis? 😁

2020-11-06 05:10:17 UTC  

@Doc pretty sure I've seen that

2020-11-06 05:10:21 UTC  

I didn't say anything (never helping out the) cops

2020-11-06 05:10:22 UTC  

I said I wouldn't speak to the FBI, even to help them without my lawyer

2020-11-06 05:10:41 UTC  

as for the cops, yes, follow his advice

2020-11-06 05:10:59 UTC  

(tldr; if you kill someone in self defense you want to point out all the evidence so the cops mark it down, and you don't want to come off as a jerk either)

2020-11-06 05:13:03 UTC  

ASP is great

2020-11-06 05:13:14 UTC  

I have Ayoob's books I think