Message from @A Haunted Army
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Well kind of both.
Regular immigration can be fine if it's like, someone from Germany to the US
1st world to 1st world
i'm in the EU, so both for me.
legal low skilled migration is bad as well
Then it is impossible to solve
I know
pretty much, we should just pick and chose people who will be a benefit to our country.
The issue in this debate is what is a problem
Well, not impossible, but either difficult, or morally abhorrent
The problem is that you came at this trying to cure immigration, which we have shown to be not the right approach
I think that legal immigration is okay and it doesnt matter where they come from
Everyone should have a chance at the American dream
i think origin is important.
A legal immigrant from Venezuela that's a doctor is actually bad for Venezuela.
But that doesnt mean everyone gets in
incompatible cutlures, and counteries with crap or fradulent education systems are a problem as well
Students that come here and stay here hurt their country of origin
oh right, brain drain is a problem too.
If the rich can come here for school ,get a good education and skill set, and are then encouraged to go back to their home countries to make them better, the world as a whole would get better
That would actively push towards "curing" immigration
Not going to happen.
We like their money too much.
that would be good, but i don't think people or counteries would be happy about that
if it was forced
I don't have an issue with immigration if both countries are well off, and the host country can fit the person in without undue strain to the current populace.
But most countries are failing in today's economy due to either communism or corruption
Yeah you can't force that
I know that's why the "solution" I proposed is only an ideal
There'd have to be a lot of work done to make that tenable
personally i think the better option would be to use standard legal imigration systems atm, which are pretty strict. and have a visa-free option for high skilled workers amongst 1st world counteries.
Until then we can only deflect illegals, curb legal immigration from shitholes, and try to exert positive pressure across the globe
But deflecting as is, wont do anything.
Yeah high skilled workers transferring from 1st world to 1st world is totally harmless
Why not
Deflecting is the name of the game as we just said
Curing is near impossible
codes, the problem is trying to fix a problem that can't be fixed.
We will just end up spending far to much deflecting immigrants when we could curb is all together by building the wall
it's in our nature to explore at the very least