Rough

The atheists especially

That and RadTradCath instant converts

People who don't know Biblical explainations and theology in general are perfect food for atheists.

There's a nuance to every teaching, really, protestant or not.

Guys like Wycliffe and Tyndale weren't dumb, they were exceptionally smart men.

The Douay-Rheims 1899 Bible (one of the most popular in Catholic history), AND KJV are based off of Wycliffe's and Tyndale's translations.

Which is why you see similar language in both if you do Bible study and language comparison.

o7

Germany has some of the best aesthetics in terms of authoritarian regimes

LOL

^

Funny

We can take this to <#668910893769293887> if you want

Them be fightin' words

and idk

i guess a couple thousand years of Saints attesting to his authority doesn't matter

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end times baptistism is gay

muh "mark of the beast"

i dont hear no trumpets

kek

<#668910893769293887> is where this convo belongs

I would imagine "trumpets" would be the mind numbing sound waves coming from nuclear weaponry

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lol

they do tho

the Absolute Monarch and his Aristocracy you prole

l0l

@JCDenton what now

?

oh that the bishop says he's a usurper

yeah idk about that

he's certainly a lame duck

none of his dogma has really "usurped" anything

his opinions are his own lol

not sure

but he's an Archbishop Emiritus

so dont expect anything to come of this

Sarah has tread the line, implied some things, and has openly challenged potential changes

Unf he's retiring soon

There has been holy orders that have, and they've been promptly excommunicated as a result

Usually small monk orders though

Not really, considering Papal Infallibility is still being reviewed since Gregory passed it

It's been contested for centuries and still debated

Even so, the idea of infallibility only really exists under certain circumstances

Of which Francis has not fulfilled when proclaiming dogma

Which is why his catechism wasn't put into place

Ye, this and he doesn't speak from the Holy See.

You must speak from the Holy See, and none of your dogma must proclaim previous (without cardinal and DoC review) anathema

This is to prevent contradiction from new dogma

So his "revised" catechism, which stated explicitly it was against the death penalty, did not apply since Benedict's and JPII's explicitly contradicted his

And the catechism of every Pope prior

for that matter

If traditionally minded catholics defect the RCC is done for, and so is plenty of european countries too for that matter

Any sort of christian or religious morality that once had a hold and a potential to make a comback would no longer exist

The largest christian denomination (as shown in germany for example) that has the strongest religious drift defense are Catholics in western europe, for the east its the EOC

I think that simply rejecting authority based on your own authority is both arbitrary and irresponsible.

This is why I reject sedes.

They're simply neo-anglicans.

They aren't convincing in the slightest.

When I mean "religious drift defense" I'm talking about the propesity to turn away from faith to another or the rejection of faith altogether.

He's the resident autist.

You can look at the lowering numbers in germany.

Germany is more Catholic than protestant now

There aren't really that mean Eastern Europe Catholic countries

Poland is one

Croatia perhaps?

Jesuits.

ew

You also have a lot of issues with progressive syncretism in South America

It is, it's simply the situation where people reject something for another which is more arbitrary

Personalized and privatized

Which is bad ofc lol

Not really? Considering the hundreds of years of ecumenical and rational authority that the Church has to offer?

"to avoid looking"

Converting isn't simply "looking"

It's "turning away" and "rejecting"

lol

It's really not that bad? Considering historical issues.

The Arian Crisis was way worse

People are simply more complacent nowadays

They want to take easier routes

No, it wasn't.

It was a crisis within the early Church that almost lead to Schism

Perhaps, but there are always failsafes and plenty of things in the way of preventing things from falling.

There always has been.

The people who turn away for that reason and that reason alone don't know the history of the Church.

And what it's overcome.

Turbulence isn't an "if" it's a "when" and "how bad".

And right now, yes, there is corruption, but it's really nothing that cannot be fixed internally.

Ultimately it is up Christians everywhere just to trust the Big Man upstairs.

2100 ping

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Right Cast*

talking about after the marriage

the issue was it was a series of executions done by the crown done after/during the wedding, subsequent escalations on both sides, mostly by the Parisians, and then an open revolt and radicalization after the wedding had lead to the conflicts

and then the Huguenots were slaughtered completely

not even by crown authorities

```Catherine de' Medici, and her son, Charles IX, were practical in their support of peace and Coligny, as they were conscious of the kingdom's financial difficulties and the Huguenots' strong defensive position: they controlled the fortified towns of La Rochelle, La Charité-sur-Loire, Cognac, and Montauban.```

curious ^