Message from @rybus

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2020-03-24 17:44:08 UTC  

Ye, this and he doesn't speak from the Holy See.

2020-03-24 17:44:46 UTC  

You must speak from the Holy See, and none of your dogma must proclaim previous (without cardinal and DoC review) anathema

2020-03-24 17:44:57 UTC  

This is to prevent contradiction from new dogma

2020-03-24 17:45:22 UTC  

So his "revised" catechism, which stated explicitly it was against the death penalty, did not apply since Benedict's and JPII's explicitly contradicted his

2020-03-24 17:45:28 UTC  

And the catechism of every Pope prior

2020-03-24 17:45:30 UTC  

for that matter

2020-03-24 17:47:18 UTC  

If traditionally minded catholics defect the RCC is done for, and so is plenty of european countries too for that matter

2020-03-24 17:47:44 UTC  

Any sort of christian or religious morality that once had a hold and a potential to make a comback would no longer exist

2020-03-24 17:49:08 UTC  

The largest christian denomination (as shown in germany for example) that has the strongest religious drift defense are Catholics in western europe, for the east its the EOC

2020-03-24 17:49:30 UTC  

Personally I think a lot of traditionally minded catholics have chained themselves to a corrupt institution and would be able to do more good if they weren't
I don't think people would stop being christian either

2020-03-24 17:49:44 UTC  

In Germany catholics aren't very conservative

2020-03-24 17:49:56 UTC  

I think that simply rejecting authority based on your own authority is both arbitrary and irresponsible.

2020-03-24 17:50:02 UTC  

The most conservative population is eastern Germans who are mostly atheist

2020-03-24 17:50:07 UTC  

you niggers sure like to ping me huh

2020-03-24 17:50:20 UTC  

This is why I reject sedes.

2020-03-24 17:50:23 UTC  

They're simply neo-anglicans.

2020-03-24 17:50:39 UTC  

They aren't convincing in the slightest.

2020-03-24 17:51:13 UTC  

diaspora germans (at least here in central europe) are mostly conservative in my experience

2020-03-24 17:51:35 UTC  

When I mean "religious drift defense" I'm talking about the propesity to turn away from faith to another or the rejection of faith altogether.

2020-03-24 17:51:57 UTC  

Right Cast pings the server over a nothing burger as per usual

2020-03-24 17:52:08 UTC  

He's the resident autist.

2020-03-24 17:52:12 UTC  

I don't really see this drift defense

2020-03-24 17:52:19 UTC  

Czechia used to be catholic

2020-03-24 17:52:31 UTC  

You can look at the lowering numbers in germany.

2020-03-24 17:52:37 UTC  

Germany is more Catholic than protestant now

2020-03-24 17:52:40 UTC  

And many eastern Euro countries who are on paper catholics aren't that religious in practice

2020-03-24 17:53:01 UTC  

There aren't really that mean Eastern Europe Catholic countries

2020-03-24 17:53:10 UTC  

Poland is one

2020-03-24 17:53:21 UTC  

Croatia perhaps?

2020-03-24 17:53:31 UTC  

Also just look at South America

2020-03-24 17:53:46 UTC  

Jesuits.

2020-03-24 17:53:47 UTC  

ew

2020-03-24 17:53:57 UTC  

Conservative christians are converting from catholicism to protestantism en masse

2020-03-24 17:54:11 UTC  

Many of the countries there will be majority prot at some point

2020-03-24 17:54:35 UTC  

Catholicism just has a lot of inertia

2020-03-24 17:55:04 UTC  

But I don't really see it as a bulwark

2020-03-24 17:55:05 UTC  

You also have a lot of issues with progressive syncretism in South America

2020-03-24 17:55:26 UTC  

It is, it's simply the situation where people reject something for another which is more arbitrary

2020-03-24 17:55:36 UTC  

Personalized and privatized

2020-03-24 17:55:47 UTC  

Which is bad ofc lol

2020-03-24 17:55:49 UTC  

So is their reason for staying catholic