@JCDenton what now

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Though technically it can't be a usurpation since usurpation would imply that bishops and the like collectively hold more authority than the pope

Maybe he’s referring to the conspiracy against the last pope to force him to step down

oh that the bishop says he's a usurper

yeah idk about that

he's certainly a lame duck

none of his dogma has really "usurped" anything

his opinions are his own lol

is this the first time an archbishop has accused pope francis of heresy?

not sure

but he's an Archbishop Emiritus

so dont expect anything to come of this

Sarah has tread the line, implied some things, and has openly challenged potential changes

Unf he's retiring soon

There has been holy orders that have, and they've been promptly excommunicated as a result

Usually small monk orders though

From a noncatholic perspective I just hope the pope fucks up by denying papal infallibility ex cathedra
Which would make dissent amongst more traditionally minded catholics easier

Not really, considering Papal Infallibility is still being reviewed since Gregory passed it

It's been contested for centuries and still debated

Even so, the idea of infallibility only really exists under certain circumstances

Of which Francis has not fulfilled when proclaiming dogma

Afaik the current line is that he's infallible if he speaks ex cathedra. Which is often used to write off his more insane notions

Which is why his catechism wasn't put into place

Ye, this and he doesn't speak from the Holy See.

You must speak from the Holy See, and none of your dogma must proclaim previous (without cardinal and DoC review) anathema

This is to prevent contradiction from new dogma

So his "revised" catechism, which stated explicitly it was against the death penalty, did not apply since Benedict's and JPII's explicitly contradicted his

And the catechism of every Pope prior

for that matter

If traditionally minded catholics defect the RCC is done for, and so is plenty of european countries too for that matter

Any sort of christian or religious morality that once had a hold and a potential to make a comback would no longer exist

The largest christian denomination (as shown in germany for example) that has the strongest religious drift defense are Catholics in western europe, for the east its the EOC

Personally I think a lot of traditionally minded catholics have chained themselves to a corrupt institution and would be able to do more good if they weren't
I don't think people would stop being christian either

In Germany catholics aren't very conservative

I think that simply rejecting authority based on your own authority is both arbitrary and irresponsible.

The most conservative population is eastern Germans who are mostly atheist

you niggers sure like to ping me huh

This is why I reject sedes.

They're simply neo-anglicans.

They aren't convincing in the slightest.