Message from @rybus
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yeah idk about that
he's certainly a lame duck
none of his dogma has really "usurped" anything
his opinions are his own lol
is this the first time an archbishop has accused pope francis of heresy?
not sure
but he's an Archbishop Emiritus
so dont expect anything to come of this
Sarah has tread the line, implied some things, and has openly challenged potential changes
Unf he's retiring soon
There has been holy orders that have, and they've been promptly excommunicated as a result
Usually small monk orders though
From a noncatholic perspective I just hope the pope fucks up by denying papal infallibility ex cathedra
Which would make dissent amongst more traditionally minded catholics easier
Not really, considering Papal Infallibility is still being reviewed since Gregory passed it
It's been contested for centuries and still debated
Even so, the idea of infallibility only really exists under certain circumstances
Of which Francis has not fulfilled when proclaiming dogma
Afaik the current line is that he's infallible if he speaks ex cathedra. Which is often used to write off his more insane notions
Which is why his catechism wasn't put into place
Ye, this and he doesn't speak from the Holy See.
You must speak from the Holy See, and none of your dogma must proclaim previous (without cardinal and DoC review) anathema
This is to prevent contradiction from new dogma
So his "revised" catechism, which stated explicitly it was against the death penalty, did not apply since Benedict's and JPII's explicitly contradicted his
And the catechism of every Pope prior
for that matter
If traditionally minded catholics defect the RCC is done for, and so is plenty of european countries too for that matter
Any sort of christian or religious morality that once had a hold and a potential to make a comback would no longer exist
The largest christian denomination (as shown in germany for example) that has the strongest religious drift defense are Catholics in western europe, for the east its the EOC
Personally I think a lot of traditionally minded catholics have chained themselves to a corrupt institution and would be able to do more good if they weren't
I don't think people would stop being christian either
In Germany catholics aren't very conservative
I think that simply rejecting authority based on your own authority is both arbitrary and irresponsible.
The most conservative population is eastern Germans who are mostly atheist
you niggers sure like to ping me huh
This is why I reject sedes.
They're simply neo-anglicans.
They aren't convincing in the slightest.
diaspora germans (at least here in central europe) are mostly conservative in my experience
When I mean "religious drift defense" I'm talking about the propesity to turn away from faith to another or the rejection of faith altogether.
Right Cast pings the server over a nothing burger as per usual
He's the resident autist.
I don't really see this drift defense