Message from @rybus
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If traditionally minded catholics defect the RCC is done for, and so is plenty of european countries too for that matter
Any sort of christian or religious morality that once had a hold and a potential to make a comback would no longer exist
The largest christian denomination (as shown in germany for example) that has the strongest religious drift defense are Catholics in western europe, for the east its the EOC
Personally I think a lot of traditionally minded catholics have chained themselves to a corrupt institution and would be able to do more good if they weren't
I don't think people would stop being christian either
In Germany catholics aren't very conservative
I think that simply rejecting authority based on your own authority is both arbitrary and irresponsible.
The most conservative population is eastern Germans who are mostly atheist
you niggers sure like to ping me huh
This is why I reject sedes.
They're simply neo-anglicans.
They aren't convincing in the slightest.
diaspora germans (at least here in central europe) are mostly conservative in my experience
When I mean "religious drift defense" I'm talking about the propesity to turn away from faith to another or the rejection of faith altogether.
Right Cast pings the server over a nothing burger as per usual
He's the resident autist.
I don't really see this drift defense
Czechia used to be catholic
You can look at the lowering numbers in germany.
Germany is more Catholic than protestant now
And many eastern Euro countries who are on paper catholics aren't that religious in practice
Poland is one
Croatia perhaps?
Also just look at South America
Jesuits.
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Conservative christians are converting from catholicism to protestantism en masse
Many of the countries there will be majority prot at some point
Catholicism just has a lot of inertia
But I don't really see it as a bulwark
You also have a lot of issues with progressive syncretism in South America
It is, it's simply the situation where people reject something for another which is more arbitrary
Personalized and privatized
Which is bad ofc lol
So is their reason for staying catholic
Just calling things arbitrary to avoid looking at something is nonsensical
Not really? Considering the hundreds of years of ecumenical and rational authority that the Church has to offer?
"to avoid looking"
Converting isn't simply "looking"
It's "turning away" and "rejecting"
lol