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2018-08-09 12:34:47 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

okay but there are actually races doing this with records like i had shown, there are more than one such race. some form Oz, some from Europe.

2018-08-09 12:36:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

a sail boat averges 6-8miles per hour, that speaks to the 16k miles form Albany around Antarctica and back taking 102 days. If would take a sail boat 300 plus days if the size is more than 60k miles

2018-08-09 12:37:39 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

the times woudl add up though

2018-08-09 12:37:46 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

would not

2018-08-09 12:38:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

3-4 years is still 3-4x how long it will take in todays yachts so it doesn't really add any merit

2018-08-09 12:40:16 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

69k miles @ 6mph = 11500hours, divided by 24hr a day = 479 days/ 365days =1.3 years

2018-08-09 12:40:45 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

that's conservatively

2018-08-09 12:41:08 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

vs 102 days on a GE

2018-08-09 12:41:30 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

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2018-08-09 12:47:34 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Yeah I am also glad the rotation of the earth and its axis as we move through the universe together with our solar system and adjacent systems is constant

2018-08-09 12:49:54 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

the dopper effect. Light is waves, sound is waves.. easy to grasp

2018-08-09 12:52:27 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

It explains how wave frequency changes depending on if a object moving to or away your viewing point.

2018-08-09 12:54:15 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

that extract of your is meaningless and assumes that everything contained in the earth atmosphere is not a closed system. Remember the fly in the car example?

2018-08-09 12:54:41 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Doppler effect proves that the stars and we are moving through the universe.

2018-08-09 12:56:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

If FLat Earthers believe in the doppler effect, then they should believe that the starts are moving based on the same logic

2018-08-09 13:02:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

That's what's interesting about your logic. You start from a proven base and when it doesn't match your agenda you turn to another direction. I have shown it in our discussion multiple times.

2018-08-09 13:03:41 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I have come to the conclusion you are in to deep and by accepting even the slightest possibility of anything else would be in too much of a conflict of your beliefs.

2018-08-09 13:04:37 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

If that is so why do you not accept that you can be right and wrong?

2018-08-09 13:08:48 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Why would we be conditioned to believe a round earth?

2018-08-09 13:19:59 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Gravity... Once you understand this, then everything else you understand will be questioned

2018-08-09 13:22:43 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

lol

2018-08-09 13:23:56 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

its not the person I am showing you. I am showign you objects falling in a vacuum. Saying you dislike the person and therefor do not entertain it proves Shaemus' point

2018-08-09 13:24:32 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I will edit him out and his voice

2018-08-09 13:26:25 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

there no person I dont even know that you hate

2018-08-09 13:28:31 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Gravity... Gravity exists

2018-08-09 13:29:20 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Open your mind. I will sent you some DMT to restart the system

2018-08-09 13:31:25 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Two objects of different densities falling at the same acceleration.. gravity..

2018-08-09 13:33:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

why at the same acceleration if the densities are different? you said objects sort themselves by density

2018-08-09 13:34:49 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

no...

2018-08-09 13:38:19 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

a vacuum increases the effect of your density theory

2018-08-09 13:46:38 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I tried, but I cannot get over the fact that most of those only work in a world without gravity which I unfortunately cannot accept does not exist.

2018-08-09 13:47:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

In general, a scientific law is the description of an observed phenomenon. It doesn't explain why the phenomenon exists or what causes it. The explanation of a phenomenon is called a scientific theory. It is a misconception that theories turn into laws with enough research

2018-08-09 13:47:45 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

gravity does not rely on magnetism...

2018-08-09 13:47:50 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

just btw

2018-08-09 13:48:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

science

2018-08-09 13:49:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

i want to get to the magnetic gravity story...

2018-08-09 13:51:12 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested, in accordance with the scientific method, using a predefined protocol of observation and experiment.[1][2] Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge

2018-08-09 13:52:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Its been tested, I have given you three videos with the same results (repeated).

2018-08-09 13:52:54 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

anyhow I wan to come back to the FE understanding that gravity is magnetic

2018-08-09 13:55:08 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

you can go do the research about whom verified it or go to any high school in the world where they will show you experiments that do the same

2018-08-09 13:55:25 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

lets get back to your magnetic gravity story... please

2018-08-09 13:58:19 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I ignore them like you ignore your misunderstanding of gravity

2018-08-09 13:58:57 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

share the link then

2018-08-09 13:59:15 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

not some extract from a theorist blog

2018-08-09 14:01:45 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

They assume that the experiments have been correctly interpreted, and never go and look them up for themselves. The experiments say nothing about a flat Earth, and the original experimenters would be shocked to think that their work was being used in that way.

2018-08-09 14:02:12 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

share the actual experiments and conclusions for us both to read

2018-08-09 14:03:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

okay your job is to find out what gravity is then, we will come back later and chat

2018-08-09 14:04:10 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

hint: gravity is not magnetism.

2018-08-09 14:05:04 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

we both have jobs to do, lets go do them

2018-08-09 14:26:29 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

True. @Deejay from Earth you got anything for me against Einsteins Theories that proves luminiferous aether exists? I am still reading, but missing this

2018-08-09 14:29:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Yeah okay but those other experiments you referenced doesn't prove luminiferous aether exists either

2018-08-09 14:29:42 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

They are only relevant is luminiferous aether is proven to exist

2018-08-09 14:30:35 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

that is not important, I need a model that proves it does exist please

2018-08-09 14:32:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

fine I will be back later then

2018-08-09 14:47:51 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth I will bring a boat and we do two experiments... https://youtu.be/QVa2UmgdTM4

2018-08-09 14:52:52 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

ever heard of diffraction?

2018-08-09 14:53:49 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

uhm.. gravity

2018-08-09 14:55:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I would believe the test if they took a measure ment at diffrent intervals. you cannot say that the laser was setup level and they hit the board on the other side first try, so any change after level setup will make the results false

2018-08-09 14:55:42 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

plane - (of a bird or an airborne object) soar without moving the wings; glide.

2018-08-09 14:56:39 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

he plays with the laser, hear what he says at 17min

2018-08-09 14:57:07 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Bring a boat and measure at intervals like the experiment I shared

2018-08-09 14:57:49 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

you want me to say sea level right?

2018-08-09 14:58:16 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Height above mean sea level. Height above mean sea level (AMSL) is the elevation (on the ground) or altitude (in the air) of an object, relative to the average sea level datum.

2018-08-09 14:58:25 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

mean is another word for average...

2018-08-09 15:03:35 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

gravity

2018-08-09 15:05:17 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

words have multiple meanings, you spoke about a airPLANE... i gave you the reference

2018-08-09 15:07:15 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

yeah cause you spoke about a AIRplane

2018-08-09 15:09:53 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

So I checked out your experiments...

2018-08-09 15:10:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

the aether ones

2018-08-09 15:14:50 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I cannot come to a conclusion as there is no proof that aether exists and as such the fact that those experiments do not have a concise conclusion does not tell me the earth is not moving. If anything it could possibly be used to prove that Luminiferous aether does not exist or is not required for light to move through out the universe. All these possibilities could be right or wrong including the possibility that the earth is not moving. So sorry it did not help me ๐Ÿ˜”

2018-08-09 15:15:50 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

what is your views on Gravity? anything new?

2018-08-09 15:28:24 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth but you understand that gravity has nothing to do with magnetism now?

2018-08-09 15:31:32 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

its different from magnetism as that works on the different states of molecules (+/-)

2018-08-09 15:32:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

here is a experiment you can do https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_qreV5A4gA

2018-08-09 15:41:49 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

No worries. a ruler is hung from a ladder at its centre with two identical masses on either side to balance it. Two larger objects (masses) are placed evenly spaced from the masses on the ruler on opposite sides till it is not moving. Once a equilibrium is found one can move one of the large masses away and document the movement of the ruler. What is happening is that mass on the ruler is still closest to the large mass that did not move gets pulled towards it. The counter acting gravitational force on the opposite end was moved and weakened it such that the equilibrium is broken, this makes the ruler move.

2018-08-09 15:42:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I hope I explained it sufficiently

2018-08-09 15:43:35 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

dude.. the closer the object is to a mass the more the force. It is exponetial

2018-08-09 15:45:22 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

no. it does not explain or attempt to explain rotation of planets only orbiting of planets

2018-08-09 15:48:03 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

I hope we can get past the definitions of theories and laws in science. I am looking into your last comment, give me a moment I cant remember all the laws etc

2018-08-09 15:50:33 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Its not a floppy tape, its a wood ruler. The only thing that is moved is the large mass at one point that never touched the ruler

2018-08-09 15:51:13 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

So "The second law of thermodynamics states that the total entropy of an isolated system can never decrease over time. The total entropy can remain constant in ideal cases where the system is in a steady state (equilibrium), or is undergoing a reversible process."

2018-08-09 15:53:26 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

how does this relate to the solar system in your opinion?

2018-08-09 15:56:32 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

you noted the lack of drag when objects fell in a vacuum right?

2018-08-09 16:04:39 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

@Deejay from Earth I am in Kzn

2018-08-09 16:09:09 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

i could not share all the sources as Discord has a text limit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/469490581899575297/477146328405901312/Gravitational_Force.txt

2018-08-09 16:10:09 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

i will check on google earth for 3-6km line of sight

2018-08-09 16:17:36 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Jozini seem the most sensible

2018-08-09 16:20:40 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

because they can do it with a lader, ruler and a few masses

2018-08-09 16:21:05 UTC [Willem Petzer Live Chat #info-wars]  

Telescope and Gyroscope i cannot answer

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