DankMemez

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!agree

2019-04-19 18:54:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

2. No race-baiting, racism, or other racially charged attacks
9. This is a pro free-speech community, so long as it conforms to the rules.
- So its not pro free-speech then, since race-baiting etc fall within the realm of free speech

2019-04-19 18:55:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

so what you're saying is that discord sucks balls

2019-04-19 18:55:59 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@OpenCube this is why i stay away from the lot of them

2019-04-19 18:57:08 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@gonejamin the former. it actually is protected under free speech

2019-04-19 18:57:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

and yes, these are not mutually exclusive btw

2019-04-19 18:58:24 UTC [Sparta #general]  

discord itself isnt even the only problem. Virtually all of these discord servers are run by authoritarian scum that will abuse their powers whenever they see fit

2019-04-19 18:59:33 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User i did not say that ALL those that run them are authoritarian scum

2019-04-19 18:59:42 UTC [Sparta #general]  

some definitely are.

2019-04-19 18:59:59 UTC [Sparta #general]  

who are and who arent is anyone's guess

2019-04-19 19:01:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@gonejamin yeah, perhaps its the last remaining non-echo chamber there is

2019-04-19 19:03:15 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@gonejamin that depends on the rules

2019-04-19 19:04:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

border hopping? you got people that advocate for completely open borders

2019-04-19 19:04:28 UTC [Sparta #general]  

like, let everyone in

2019-04-19 19:04:42 UTC [Sparta #general]  

thats fucking insane

2019-04-19 19:05:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

how would that fix anything? @OpenCube

2019-04-19 19:06:00 UTC [Sparta #general]  

how do illegals vote in the first place? are you kidding me?

2019-04-19 19:06:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

hoooow? you need an ID and they have all your personal information if you vote

2019-04-19 19:06:57 UTC [Sparta #general]  

i mean im not american, i dont know

2019-04-19 19:07:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

๐Ÿคฆ Good job America

2019-04-19 19:07:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

go ahead and replace the drivers license with a name tag

2019-04-19 19:08:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

"Hello, My name is NOT Illegal Alien"

2019-04-19 19:08:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Fitzydog poor people arent a race, and how much do you need to pay for an ID anyway?

2019-04-19 19:09:36 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Budd Dwyer I believe in these things too, doesnt mean I readily accept the "everyone welcome in the US, no questions asked" policy

2019-04-19 19:10:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Budd Dwyer ok, so when you ask "does that make me a leftist" understand how general the label is.
It doesnt make you a progressive cuck

2019-04-19 19:11:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Fitzydog the "change my mind" thing is retarded. No one has to change your mind, the onus is on you to prove your claim

2019-04-19 19:12:07 UTC [Sparta #general]  

in other words, you change people's minds

2019-04-19 19:12:17 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Steven Crowder is often a moron

2019-04-19 19:12:47 UTC [Sparta #general]  

what the hell is "solcilisim"?

2019-04-19 19:12:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

you mean socialism?

2019-04-19 19:13:20 UTC [Sparta #general]  

k *deals with it

2019-04-19 19:13:31 UTC [Sparta #general]  

lel

2019-04-19 19:14:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User if you mean it as an invitation, as you being open to having your mind changed, then fine

2019-04-19 19:14:24 UTC [Sparta #general]  

if however you require that someone convinces you of the opposite, otherwise you're right, then thats a fallacy

2019-04-19 19:15:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User I've seen a video where he takes this "purest form" approach, but I've also seen vids of him going "ha! Gotcha, you cant prove me wrong!" which is bullshit

2019-04-19 19:15:57 UTC [Sparta #general]  

plus what Capitan said^

2019-04-19 19:16:59 UTC [Sparta #general]  

when you make a proposition, you've adopted a burden proof. this "change my mind" stuff can be abused easily, and sounds a bit like a bait and switch

2019-04-19 19:17:42 UTC [Sparta #general]  

no idea what that ME kid is

2019-04-19 19:18:15 UTC [Sparta #general]  

yes, but thats ez

2019-04-19 19:18:24 UTC [Sparta #general]  

which is why crowder and pretty much anyone can do it

2019-04-19 19:19:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Crowder can actually hold long and honest conversations, its just that he often doesnt, and is mostly interested in building himself up and getting sound bytes

2019-04-19 19:19:36 UTC [Sparta #general]  

but he is quite capable, and can hold a conversation/debate well

2019-04-19 19:21:20 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Tricerius damn you got the full clip. Have to watch that later

2019-04-19 19:21:33 UTC [Sparta #general]  

any particular timestamps that are noteworthy?

2019-04-19 19:22:11 UTC [Sparta #general]  

which kid of all?

2019-04-19 19:22:17 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I dont know who you're talking about

2019-04-19 19:22:45 UTC [Sparta #general]  

oh sorry, I went right to the beginning @Tricerius

2019-04-19 19:23:44 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Hitchens is what we desperately need right now

2019-04-19 19:31:50 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Tricerius Crowder seems very weak on this one, even by his standards. He failed to justify most of his arguments. I think he could have done better, if he had taken more time to formulate his thoughts more eloquently.

2019-04-19 19:33:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

cant tell tbh. The kid was bad also, not so emotionally engaged, but he didnt really make his case well

2019-04-19 19:34:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

love the "oooooh" part when the kid drops the word "autistic"

2019-04-19 19:34:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

like, relax crowd, jeez

2019-04-19 19:34:29 UTC [Sparta #general]  

how sensitive are they

2019-04-19 19:35:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

he can call whatever he wants as autistic or retarded

2019-04-19 19:35:40 UTC [Sparta #general]  

i dont care

2019-04-19 19:36:21 UTC [Sparta #general]  

also "its very easy to argue from logic and syllogisms" ? thats one of the most stupidly untrue statements i have ever heard.

2019-04-19 19:37:07 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Arguing from pure logic is the hardest thing to do, because logic, and specifically propositional logic, aims to force us to accept a conclusion by eliminating all other options

2019-04-19 19:37:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I.e. its only logical if we can only reach X conclusion

2019-04-19 19:37:29 UTC [Sparta #general]  

otherwise, the argument is not sound

2019-04-19 19:39:17 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Tricerius situations? I dont know what you mean here

2019-04-19 19:39:31 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I am addressing what the kid said, about philosophy and logical syllogisms

2019-04-19 19:39:59 UTC [Sparta #general]  

what situations? as in real things that happen?

2019-04-19 19:40:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

real life events?

2019-04-19 19:40:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

thats completely irrelevant

2019-04-19 19:40:40 UTC [Sparta #general]  

well i have no idea what you mean still

2019-04-19 19:41:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

go study propositional logic, or at least go to wikipedia to get an idea, then you'll see what i mean

2019-04-19 19:41:21 UTC [Sparta #general]  

this is epistemology, and i guess you can say its an abstract

2019-04-19 19:43:11 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Look how easy it is:
P1. Elizabeth owns either a Honda or a Saturn.
P2. Elizabeth does not own a Honda.
C: Therefore, Elizabeth owns a Saturn.

2019-04-19 19:43:45 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Based on the 2 premises, you cant reach any other conclusion

2019-04-19 19:43:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

the premises can only lead to 1 conclusion

2019-04-19 19:44:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

that is what strong arguments based on propositional logic do

2019-04-19 19:44:48 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The best arguments make it impossible for you to reach any other conclusion than what is proposed

2019-04-19 19:45:11 UTC [Sparta #general]  

you could say its partly awesome!

2019-04-19 19:45:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

....ok I couldnt help it. sorry

2019-04-19 19:47:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

"whats immoral about inequality?" - Steven Crowder 2019

2019-04-19 19:47:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I dont know why you would even ask this question

2019-04-19 19:49:50 UTC [Sparta #general]  

no its not ffs

2019-04-19 19:50:13 UTC [Sparta #general]  

sure, do you want me to answer if rape is immoral too?

2019-04-19 19:50:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

fuck off

2019-04-19 19:51:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

then you have a strange interpretation of "inequality"

2019-04-19 19:51:16 UTC [Sparta #general]  

or you're not talking about morality, but something else

2019-04-19 19:52:35 UTC [Sparta #general]  

you people are weird. fine. Inequality is inherently bad for society because it creates a stratified and unjust society, hence the difference classes and the difference that alienates people of these classes

2019-04-19 19:53:39 UTC [Sparta #general]  

in addition to having poor classes that have to get loans and pay bills that are struggling to meet, you also have a more serious problem which is the division it causes among people and the various conflict it generates on the broader society

2019-04-19 19:55:00 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Antiboom yeah ok sure, I'll define it for you. Its simply not having equal wealth, social status, place in society. Literally earning more or less money for the same amount of work, or earning more money than those that work their asses off

2019-04-19 19:55:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The billionaire can make millions just by having their money sit in a bank. Most people have to work hard just to pay their bills and get the necessities of life

2019-04-19 19:56:47 UTC [Sparta #general]  

in fact, poor people have to get loans and pay interest, which goes into the bank accounts of the millionaires, because of their large deposits

2019-04-19 19:57:20 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Antiboom time that you spent working

2019-04-19 19:58:24 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Fitzydog k. tell that to the ones that cant pay their bills because they got sacked. And no, just because you got fired doesnt mean you're useless or a bad worker. Companies reduce staff size very often.

2019-04-19 19:58:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Antiboom uhm, the mentally disabled man shouldnt be forced to work ffs.

2019-04-19 19:59:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

cause you know....they cant work?

2019-04-19 19:59:07 UTC [Sparta #general]  

how stupid are you

2019-04-19 19:59:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

3 hours doing what? taxes?

2019-04-19 19:59:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

thats not a job

2019-04-19 20:00:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

what are you even talking about

2019-04-19 20:00:46 UTC [Sparta #general]  

ok. if it takes them too long to do the same kind of work because they're stupid, then that job isnt for them

2019-04-19 20:01:21 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I cant be a physics professor, but if I tried hard enough, I might be able to teach a class. You know, taking 10 times longer to explain the same thing as an actual professor

2019-04-19 20:01:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

get it?

2019-04-19 20:01:33 UTC [Sparta #general]  

thats why I am not a professor

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