Message from @Ctrlaltlama

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2018-06-19 23:17:40 UTC  

this will have like zero effect

2018-06-19 23:27:11 UTC  

@Reaps as much as I dislike the turks putting them Russian aliegned is dangerouse simply becuase of the Geography problem. Currently Turkey is a nice bottle neck on any Russain naval activity.

2018-06-19 23:28:26 UTC  

the russians don't have advantagous positions when it comes to their naval bases

2018-06-19 23:28:53 UTC  

that's what he's getting at

2018-06-19 23:28:55 UTC  

they do if Turkey is on there side

2018-06-19 23:29:20 UTC  

currently Russia has no good ports other than Vladadofstock (which is shut in by Japan)

2018-06-19 23:29:25 UTC  

Also, Turkey has been an important staging area for a lot of US military operations in the MidEast for a long time

2018-06-19 23:29:29 UTC  

the turkish elections are in a few days

2018-06-19 23:29:50 UTC  

if Turkey gives them free hand at it Crimia is the largest naval base on the mediterain.

2018-06-19 23:30:00 UTC  

@Ctrlaltlama Isn't Vladivostok hampered by winter ice?

2018-06-19 23:30:05 UTC  

no

2018-06-19 23:30:36 UTC  

yeah it's not

2018-06-19 23:30:49 UTC  

it's the only pacific port they have thats not

2018-06-19 23:30:56 UTC  

while not being a warm-water port, it still can operate year rounnd

2018-06-19 23:31:14 UTC  

and one of only 3 that doesn't freeze over they have

2018-06-19 23:31:33 UTC  

the other two being Crimia, and Azoov (both stuck behind the dardinal straits)

2018-06-19 23:31:57 UTC  

don't forget about kalinlingrad

2018-06-19 23:32:04 UTC  

that freezes

2018-06-19 23:32:09 UTC  

does it?

2018-06-19 23:32:14 UTC  

the baltic freezes yes

2018-06-19 23:32:31 UTC  

same problem as st petersberg

2018-06-19 23:32:38 UTC  

I thought that was only in the northern baltic

2018-06-19 23:32:41 UTC  

also there is the Danish straits

2018-06-19 23:32:55 UTC  

it doesn't freeze as bad

2018-06-19 23:33:28 UTC  

it doesn't relaibly freeze but it can

2018-06-19 23:33:43 UTC  

there is still the danish blocking them in

2018-06-19 23:34:03 UTC  

and the so called "north sea wall" from English Channel to Greenland

2018-06-19 23:34:24 UTC  

which would be a signifiant impediment for there naval power in the event of a war

2018-06-19 23:35:07 UTC  

there's a reason why russia isn't famous for its navy

2018-06-19 23:35:21 UTC  

shit position

2018-06-19 23:35:21 UTC  

it's also why it's not a true world power

2018-06-19 23:35:38 UTC  

finland is a myth

2018-06-19 23:35:45 UTC  

norway is using the hidden finnish sea to fish

2018-06-19 23:35:48 UTC  

russia would be probably the largest benefactor for rising temperatures

2018-06-19 23:35:49 UTC  

the truth is out there

2018-06-19 23:36:06 UTC  

exploding permafrost?

2018-06-19 23:36:12 UTC  

Imagine if murmansk or arkangel become warm-water ports

2018-06-19 23:36:14 UTC  

excluding the neuclear option, it's severly hampered in millitary deployment so can't realy have long peroids of overseas infleunce

2018-06-19 23:36:15 UTC  

autralia's not real

2018-06-19 23:36:18 UTC  

lol