that wasn't really a war. That was state genocide

conducted by the occupiers

it was not warfare

it was genocide

warfare in the western world has always been subject to unstated rules, and the goal is not necessarily the extermination of the 'enemy' population. Once you get into that territory, it's genocide.

your point being?

they drove people off their land through terrorism and violence. They weren't trying to murder all Poles as you stated, simply to take their territory. That is known these days as 'ethnic cleansing'

which is seperate from genocide, as practiced against the Jews, where the goal is the mass execution of an entire group

although admittedly the lines can be blurry

but WW2 was not the beginning of genocide and ethnic cleansing, those have long historical precedent. While they saw use in that conflict, I reject the notion that WW2 saw those tactics somehow enshrined ('enriched') in the western way of war. Look at the many conflicts the US has engaged in since then where these were not part of the overall strategy.
Back to your earlier point of 'extermination based total war', well in the end the nation who used that strategy lost to a multinational coalition. So I would say that we haven't seen that used successfully in warfare in centuries. However, it has often been used in modern times successfully against a populace by their own government (Armenian genocide, russian pogroms, etc..)

@Apollo'sJest fair enough, but we can play the 'what if' game all day

I don't think there's really anything of substance to disagree over honestly.

🤝

To be fair, Chopin has conceeded that he is most interested in the situation at hand and opposing existing power structures.
We may think of him as shortsighted for not having a full blueprint for an anarchist world after the fall of existing power structures, but I think that's a tall order anyway

I don't think he said personal freedoms and rights need to be abolished, but rather that he does not believe in their inherent existance

two different points of view

that they *do not* exist and that they *should not* exist are different

damn I've been here less than an hour. Is it always like this here? 👍

neat I'll have to stick around a bit 👀

I once asked these Ukranian girls if they spoke Russian and I got a 10 minute lecture. Can't y'all just figure it out already?

@Apollo'sJest I think that's an intellectually sneaky way to try an equate monarchy and democracy. The process of belief may be the same, but that doesn't mean the subjects of belief (monarchy vs democracry) are equal

I would be hesitant to equate an illiterate serf with a modern first world person in terms of thinking. But I think humans have a tendency to think 'the way things are now are for the best'

as I said, *in terms of [their] thinking*. It's making a decision based on faith versus an educated decision based on reason.

but humans have a tendency towards inertia

I don't think most people spend too much time considering alternate forms of governance. I think they have more immediate concerns and are just happy when things are going well

but I wouldn't tie that in to a peasant's belief that the king rules because of God's plan or whatever

in the 'serf' belief, order is imposed by above from God. Not only would it be useless to struggle against God, but it's sinful. You do your part and suffer on this earth and maybe you'll be rewarded in the end.
In the modern belief, man has chosen his rulers (that's the belief at least). They can be replaced and it would be possible for us to choose a different form of government, in theory.

so I think it comes down to 'thats how god has decreed it' to 'thats the best way to do things'.

belief motivated by immutable external agency vs belief motivated by reason

you may say the reasons are weak, but they're more reason than 'god says so'

I think there is reason there, even if it's not at the political theorist level

you can't reason with god. that is beyond reason.

you can reason with a form of government that humans have chosen to empower humans. In fact, democracy invites you to reason and try and improve things

anyways I have to run 👋

somehow fitting that they're putting up a confederate statue next to an RV park 👍

of course white people are rednecks... you ever see a black person with a red neck?

no I'm not

1/4 is good enough for me. Would you be interested in fucking my wife?

but the black man is a superior physical specimen

have you ever seen one? They're marvellous

post it again

3rd time's the charm thanks my man 👌

you're in good company

I'm not triggered, but also you're a retarded faggot and I'd kill you in an instant 🤔

warhammer 40k is cringe af

I don't like anime but w/e ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

somalian jew reptile

it's OK to play space soldiers in your mom's basement, no need to get triggered

I understand how a child would find appeal in pretending to be a big powerful man

wow no need to be rude. Go ahead and pretend you're an elite space marine fighting instellar degeneracy or whatever, I don't mind

>le 4chan arrows

actually it's from a video game, not an anime. How did I insult you?

the truth isn't insulting m8, it just *is*

sorry you're so touchy about playing army men for 'adults'. I didn't mean anything by it

is warhammer 40k a board game? I don't think it has a board 🤔

also if you're going to spend $400 to play a board game and still have to paint your own dolls, you're on another level

go right ahead

whatever floats your boat. I used to play army men too it's nothing to be ashamed about

I made the best sound effects

is that what you called a game based on dice rolls? 🤔

well hey I guess monopoly is strategy too

but I didn't spend $400 and 10 hours painting to play it 🤔

oh so it only takes 5 hours I'm sorry

less than you posted in that picture 🤔

do you think they spent 5 minutes per figure too?

OK sure. Well anyways like I said it's fine if you play soldiers, I don't mind. We've all been through that phase

I'm not disagreeing

army men can be a game and a hobby, please don't be biased.

I played with a grid system and dice rolls

>inb4 cuck!

there are stupid, violent people on all sides. That's just a fact of life.

go back to playing with your army men btw

I don't see how being an MLP fan is any more 'degenerate' than playing warhammer 40k tbh

I'm not convinced, and anyways do we know Snow's age? 🤔

or even gender?

I've never met a brony over the age of 35 myself, although I've only known 3

no I really don't mind them. The bronies I've known IRL were pretty cool. I don't hate people because they have hobbies/interests that I'm not into.

interest, at least. Being a full-time brony could be a hobby. Some of them are pretty dedicated 🤔

if you're making clothing, attending cons, making plushies, art, etc...

yes they do constructive things as well... they're just MLP-centric

no that's why I was saying it could be a hobby

and actually if you're making art or plushies, then yes you could sell them for a profit

man this brony is making you look like a fool @Deleted User 🤦

better give up now

no he's pointing out how your statements are nonsensical and insulting you while he does it.

you're asking stupid questions aka 'does that hobby assist with daily life?' and he's pointing that out and implying your stupid questions make you a stupid person.

But that's just my impression.

I don't think national socialism worked out for nazi germany though 🤔

because it's the first result when you google 'socialism definition' 👍

for how long can you pretend to be retarded until you aren't pretending anymore 🤔

they certainly never fail to bring meems

still waiting for some funny ones

lol nigger XD

like I said, it would be nice if I saw some funny ones.

If I ask for you to leave, will you also grant that wish?

good for you, unfortunate for your parents

a fine example of the white race 👌

so at least you can embarass them from a distance. Good for them.

Sure @olev throw me a life preserver

underhanded and unoriginal? Then you should love it