Message from @DessertBeagle
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You mean like Afghanistan?
I mean like WWIII
Only way to win would be to genocide or nuke everyone from orbit, even then it wouldn't kill everyone.
You misunderstand me. My qustion is: would a non organised society
Armies come and go. Occupation is never forever.
Tell that to the Polish Jews
I'm not familiar with that example.
WWII Jews in Poland
most of em just died...
Are the Nazi's still occupiying Poland?
No, but the jews got almost exterminated
Was the resistance successful?
no
the ghetto uprising failed - no survivors
RIP
warsaw ghetto I should say
(The later Warsaw uprising didn't fear much better either to be fair)
That's one sub population though. We need to be specific about what we are talking about. What do you mean by the arbitrary 'non-organised society'? What do you have in mind?
No clue, you the anarchist
So, you're basing it on an impression. That's not a very honest characterisation.
conducted by the occupiers
@DessertBeagle Yeah, as a means of conducting warfare
it was not warfare
it was genocide
My idea of anarchism is not restricted to borders and subpopulations.
@Deleted User Ok, explain what kind of society, that could still be described as anarchistic, would ever be able to withstand a modern state's genocidal whim?
But I would understand how a nationalist could be habituated to always think in these terms.
@DessertBeagle I don't see how the two are necesairly incompatibe
@Deleted User (I'm not a nationalist)
@Deleted User (unless by nationalist you mean a non-anarchist)
I don't know. I don't live in a fantasy world. I think in terms of here and now. Anarchism is an action nowadays against power structures. I'm not sure how a modern state would genocide people who are embedded all around the world.
warfare in the western world has always been subject to unstated rules, and the goal is not necessarily the extermination of the 'enemy' population. Once you get into that territory, it's genocide.
@Apollo'sJest Apologies, what is your politics?
@DessertBeagle Ok, but the entire point of Hitler's version of (eastern) warfare was germanisation or repalcement of the local population. That was the entire policy - that's why operation Barbarossa included entire divisions of mass executioners following the tank offenssive. To murder the locals. The German government did not want the population that it saw as a hasse, it wanted the land.
your point being?
@Deleted User I'm a bit of a wirdo... The short version is: republican (in the classical, non US sense) that most other contemporary repblicans would call a monarchist.
@DessertBeagle My point being genocide was part of the military strategy
they drove people off their land through terrorism and violence. They weren't trying to murder all Poles as you stated, simply to take their territory. That is known these days as 'ethnic cleansing'
which is seperate from genocide, as practiced against the Jews, where the goal is the mass execution of an entire group
although admittedly the lines can be blurry