Dostayer

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2019-02-12 03:09:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Eh?
What are you talking about?

2019-02-12 03:32:04 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

*Renewable energies has their problems:
Wind isn't reliable enough to be based on, Solar panels has really low efficiency (something like 10% for common commercial solar panels, the highest I know of is somewhere around 30%) and the sun isn't always shining (nights), Thermosolar isn't effective as well.
Hydroelectric is quite expensive to construct and isn't available everywhere.
The most promising renewable energy technology right now is Tidal Energy, but it's still in its infancy.

2019-02-12 10:48:23 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

@Salacious Swanky Cat Tidal is the most reliable, and again, it's in its infancy and it seems very promising.

10 years ago I've seen a panel of 30% efficiency, AFAIK they are not commercial viable due to high costs (which limits their usage for very specific tasks), they've actually reached 40%.

Renewable energy right know has a problem of high costs anyhow, we won't come anything near to 80% in the next decade due to costs and the lack reliability.
I would love to see the source for the 80% figure, it sounds way too high for me.

2019-02-12 10:49:15 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I would also like to know what AIPAC did.

2019-02-12 12:03:12 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Hi, I'm an Israeli, I can't say I don't like what they are doing.

2019-02-12 12:04:09 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Especially when you consider where the youth and the Federal administrators are being educated.

2019-02-12 12:11:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Oh, I see

2019-02-12 12:12:11 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Well, evanglicans are way more influential than AIPAC

2019-02-12 12:13:46 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Although Jews do have a strong hold in the Democratic party

2019-02-12 12:14:50 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

But they have completely different views on things than Israelis, actually, they are progressive Americans more than anything else.

2019-02-12 12:16:59 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Oh, she's a BDSer

2019-02-12 12:17:48 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Well, I think it's clear why there is a dislike to her among some circles.

2019-02-12 12:31:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

It can't be 100%, it's not reliable enough.

2019-02-12 12:31:15 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Thanks for the source though.

2019-02-12 12:32:45 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

On a complete different subject: I guess you're aware of young people tendencies to define themselves mostly by their "origin country" rather than their current one?

2019-02-12 12:36:34 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Ethnicity

2019-02-12 12:36:36 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Well

2019-02-12 12:40:28 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Something that you might be unaware of: there are Jews from all around the world, one of the largest groups were the ones from the Arab world. They were expelled during the 50's or "voluntarily" left.

2019-02-12 12:40:35 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Now

2019-02-12 12:40:39 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Here we go

2019-02-12 12:41:23 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Because there's a lie which circulates for a very long time in leftist circles

2019-02-12 12:41:41 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

That Jews from the Arab world are Arabs

2019-02-12 12:42:22 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

It's started in the US and creeped in to here

2019-02-12 12:42:41 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Yes

2019-02-12 12:43:10 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Propegated by some hard left Jews from the relevant group

2019-02-12 12:43:14 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Yes

2019-02-12 12:43:39 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Welcome to the Jewish world, 2 Jews 4 different opinions.

2019-02-12 12:43:52 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Now

2019-02-12 12:44:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

This is going for so long that some people started to see this as truth

2019-02-12 12:46:05 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Which is not, the Jews of the Arab world absorbed some of the culture there, but they didn't assimilated into the Culture or the ethnicity, unlike Christians.

2019-02-12 12:46:18 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Ideology I guess.

2019-02-12 12:46:46 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Actually, they were there before even Mohammed was born.

2019-02-12 12:47:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Mostly a mix of surrounding cotries which the Jordanian considered as part of them.

2019-02-12 12:48:03 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Countries

2019-02-12 12:48:31 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

That came here with the the beginning of Zionism.

2019-02-12 12:49:08 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

BTW: Jordan renounced them in the 80's

2019-02-12 12:49:45 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

*their citizenship

2019-02-12 12:50:35 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

They've actually expelled the PLO in the 70's after they've been fed up with their nonsense

2019-02-12 12:51:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Arafat was born in Egypt BTW

2019-02-12 12:51:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Anyhow, back to the Jewish thing: this ugly thing has started to rise up in the US and here too.

2019-02-12 12:52:20 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Most people here would be offended if call them Arab Jews

2019-02-12 12:53:58 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

And due to progressivism, some youth in the US are defining themselves as "Arab Jews", while their parents did everything to strip themselves from this identity.

2019-02-12 12:54:53 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

In the US they went full force of becoming Americans.

2019-02-12 12:56:28 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Here it's a little more complicated, a lot people do take the "origin country" in account (traditions), but they are first and foremost, Israeli Jews.

2019-02-12 12:57:18 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Actually, most of the population here is mixed

2019-02-12 12:58:44 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

So it's not that true anymore and is rather irrelevant (except for sect jokes/humor, this is always fun).

2019-02-12 12:59:55 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

A person's sect is almost never a hurdle towards marriage or friendship.

2019-02-12 13:00:10 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Or a factor

2019-02-12 13:00:26 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The big exception are the Ultra Orthodox

2019-02-12 13:00:45 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Which are a pain, like a real pain, a pain which forces itself upon you.

2019-02-12 13:04:00 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Hmm?

2019-02-12 13:05:24 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

*BTW: the reason it's complicated is because of the labour party (which ruled for nearly 30 years at the beginning of the country), it was very very racist and Socialist.

2019-02-12 13:06:12 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

They felt themselves superior to others

2019-02-12 13:06:16 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Anyhow

2019-02-12 13:06:37 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Yes

2019-02-12 13:06:52 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

They became progressive too BTW.

2019-02-12 13:07:29 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Ultra Orthodox is a collection of rather radical Ashkenazi sects

2019-02-12 13:08:46 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Anyhow, ever since 1977 (the year that the Likud, the right winged party, won the election) they've lost every election

2019-02-12 13:09:08 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

With the exception of 2.5 times

2019-02-12 13:09:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

And the last 2 times were traumatic

2019-02-12 13:10:25 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

That's why the left will never regain its power through elections.

2019-02-12 13:10:29 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Here

2019-02-12 13:11:04 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Though the administration is filled to the brim with them.

2019-02-12 13:11:59 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

The problem with ultra orthodox is that they are extremely intolerant to other ways of life.

2019-02-12 13:12:54 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

For example, I'm gay, ultra orthodox are the reason why there's no surrogate option for single men.

2019-02-12 13:13:06 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

And by extension, gays.

2019-02-12 13:14:07 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

It's forbidden by law.

2019-02-12 13:17:28 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

It's allowed for single women

2019-02-12 13:17:53 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

And anyhow, the country shouldn't get involved in this

2019-02-12 13:17:58 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Government

2019-02-12 13:18:46 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

BTW, gay couples can be really good parents

2019-02-12 13:19:28 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Yes

2019-02-12 13:19:49 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

But, women can go to the sperm bank and get donation.

2019-02-12 13:21:12 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

It's complicated, women can use it to trap someone

2019-02-12 13:21:32 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Luckily, I don't need to face such things ๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-02-12 13:22:42 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

BTW, it's very unlikely for a single gay to use surrogate, it's very very expensive business.

2019-02-12 13:23:43 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Nice, I personally left the religion due to it.

2019-02-12 13:24:29 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Although "religious" is a very fluid term here.

2019-02-12 13:25:19 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Especially when you talk about Askenazi vs Mizrahi Jews.

2019-02-12 13:25:57 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Nice to see someone from the trans community which isn't a crazy SJW ๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-02-12 13:27:35 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

*Ashkenazi Jews tend to be way more strict, Mizrahi Jews has a way more liberal interpretation of the religion so they take what they see fit.

2019-02-12 13:28:21 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

@SpanishAbbey good, because the trans I know in person are SJWs, combative SJWs.

2019-02-12 13:34:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

What do you mean by "cure"?

2019-02-12 13:38:07 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

There's no cure for it

2019-02-12 13:38:27 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

It's hardwired into the brain

2019-02-12 13:38:36 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

There's nothing to cure

2019-02-12 13:40:21 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

True

2019-02-12 13:41:10 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

But it's pre determined and every attempt to "fix" it ended with bad results.

2019-02-12 13:43:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

But it's not "mental"

2019-02-12 13:43:30 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

I know what a mental condition is way too well.

2019-02-12 13:43:36 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Way way too well.

2019-02-12 13:45:02 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

And it can be treated, Sexual orientation isn't.

2019-02-12 14:02:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

There are ways to mitigate it

2019-02-12 14:02:22 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

For gays? Nope

2019-02-12 16:25:29 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

So does homosexuality

2019-02-12 16:26:13 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Not for the person himself though, more to his sister

2019-02-12 16:28:38 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

BTW: homosexuality in China wasn't viewed as something horrendous up until the 18th century

2019-02-12 16:28:46 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Or 19

2019-02-12 16:29:26 UTC [Call-In Show Server #general]  

Or negative in general

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