Message from @Dostayer

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2019-02-12 16:24:31 UTC  

With the body, you could argue women's cellulite is a disorder, but since about 80% of women get it, it could be described as a secondary sex characteristic

2019-02-12 16:24:56 UTC  

@SpanishAbbey good point. idk.

2019-02-12 16:25:11 UTC  

but cellulite or anything physical has an evolutionary purpose

2019-02-12 16:25:13 UTC  

Again, it comes down to how you make the distinction

2019-02-12 16:25:27 UTC  

Evolution and purpose don't go together

2019-02-12 16:25:29 UTC  

So does homosexuality

2019-02-12 16:26:13 UTC  

Not for the person himself though, more to his sister

2019-02-12 16:26:26 UTC  

Mental things are also evolutionary traits. You can't separate the body and mind so easily

2019-02-12 16:26:50 UTC  

mind or brain? or both?

2019-02-12 16:26:52 UTC  

😛

2019-02-12 16:26:56 UTC  

Both

2019-02-12 16:27:22 UTC  

They follow the same evolutionary pressures as physical traits

2019-02-12 16:27:36 UTC  

I would make that assumption as well.

2019-02-12 16:27:44 UTC  

At what point do we decide something needs to cured?

2019-02-12 16:28:03 UTC  

Who makes that dee

2019-02-12 16:28:10 UTC  

Decision

2019-02-12 16:28:23 UTC  

I dont think homosexuality needs to be "cured" btw, just to make that clear lol

2019-02-12 16:28:38 UTC  

BTW: homosexuality in China wasn't viewed as something horrendous up until the 18th century

2019-02-12 16:28:46 UTC  

Or 19

2019-02-12 16:29:08 UTC  

I have more webbing between my fingers than most. At what point do I need to cure that

2019-02-12 16:29:26 UTC  

Or negative in general

2019-02-12 16:29:26 UTC  

So this highlights my concern (or maybe curiosity) about this issue.

2019-02-12 16:30:13 UTC  

Is how we categorize mental disorders, diseases, abnormalities, etc. socially determined and defined or scientifically?

2019-02-12 16:30:29 UTC  

or are those two categorizations not mutually exclusive?

2019-02-12 16:30:45 UTC  

A lot of basic human traits have been incorrectly made pathological

2019-02-12 16:31:19 UTC  

i.e. California no longer mandating divulging your HIV to a sexual partner (if I'm referencing that properly) in order to reduce the stigma associated with having HIV...

2019-02-12 16:31:22 UTC  

I don't think they are mutually exclusive

2019-02-12 16:31:40 UTC  

HIV is a horrible virus

2019-02-12 16:31:51 UTC  

In relation to extra hand-webbing: I'd say that when something impedes normal functions is the line you could draw. If they don't negatively impact your manual dexterity it's nothing to worry about. But if they do, it's something to be concerned of.
Though perhaps by this same logic, since homosexuality doesn't produce offspring and is therefore a dead end, it would be classified as a disorder of some sort.

2019-02-12 16:31:56 UTC  

Promiscuity is pathological.

2019-02-12 16:32:07 UTC  

Does California's updated legislation suggest it's not "horrible", @Dostayer ?

2019-02-12 16:32:31 UTC  

It's stupid not to inform your partner, especially when PReP is so common

2019-02-12 16:32:35 UTC  

Promiscuity is gross and ends to be destroyed

2019-02-12 16:32:49 UTC  

Yes. Promiscuity destroys

2019-02-12 16:33:00 UTC  

No use defending it.

2019-02-12 16:33:09 UTC  

HIV will destroy your health and kill you, being gay won't

2019-02-12 16:33:10 UTC  

it isnt just stupid @Dostayer it is immoral.

2019-02-12 16:33:15 UTC  

Many gays has this phase, but they grow out of it.

2019-02-12 16:33:32 UTC  

The problem starts when they don't

2019-02-12 16:33:38 UTC  

I don’t think so.

2019-02-12 16:33:56 UTC  

Monogamy in gays is uncommon