Message from @Dostayer

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2019-02-12 14:02:13 UTC  

There are ways to mitigate it

2019-02-12 14:02:22 UTC  

For gays? Nope

2019-02-12 15:35:38 UTC  

Could I weigh in with some questions?

2019-02-12 16:21:22 UTC  

I don't trust people to accurately describe the difference between something physiologic and pathologic

2019-02-12 16:21:37 UTC  
2019-02-12 16:21:51 UTC  

my bad. Got distracted at work. lol

2019-02-12 16:21:54 UTC  

Lol

2019-02-12 16:21:56 UTC  

Same

2019-02-12 16:22:41 UTC  

A few decades ago, wasn't homosexuality viewed as a mental disorder?

2019-02-12 16:22:55 UTC  

yes

2019-02-12 16:22:56 UTC  

If so, why? and why has that changed now?

2019-02-12 16:23:01 UTC  

Well

2019-02-12 16:23:19 UTC  

What is the difference between a mental disorder and a human trait

2019-02-12 16:24:15 UTC  

It seems like, at least with the trans and gender bending movement, political persuasion plays a significant role in our scientific and medical research and may have or is perverting our findings and how we proceed as a species.

2019-02-12 16:24:31 UTC  

With the body, you could argue women's cellulite is a disorder, but since about 80% of women get it, it could be described as a secondary sex characteristic

2019-02-12 16:24:56 UTC  

@SpanishAbbey good point. idk.

2019-02-12 16:25:11 UTC  

but cellulite or anything physical has an evolutionary purpose

2019-02-12 16:25:13 UTC  

Again, it comes down to how you make the distinction

2019-02-12 16:25:27 UTC  

Evolution and purpose don't go together

2019-02-12 16:25:29 UTC  

So does homosexuality

2019-02-12 16:26:13 UTC  

Not for the person himself though, more to his sister

2019-02-12 16:26:26 UTC  

Mental things are also evolutionary traits. You can't separate the body and mind so easily

2019-02-12 16:26:50 UTC  

mind or brain? or both?

2019-02-12 16:26:52 UTC  

😛

2019-02-12 16:26:56 UTC  

Both

2019-02-12 16:27:22 UTC  

They follow the same evolutionary pressures as physical traits

2019-02-12 16:27:36 UTC  

I would make that assumption as well.

2019-02-12 16:27:44 UTC  

At what point do we decide something needs to cured?

2019-02-12 16:28:03 UTC  

Who makes that dee

2019-02-12 16:28:10 UTC  

Decision

2019-02-12 16:28:23 UTC  

I dont think homosexuality needs to be "cured" btw, just to make that clear lol

2019-02-12 16:28:38 UTC  

BTW: homosexuality in China wasn't viewed as something horrendous up until the 18th century

2019-02-12 16:28:46 UTC  

Or 19

2019-02-12 16:29:08 UTC  

I have more webbing between my fingers than most. At what point do I need to cure that

2019-02-12 16:29:26 UTC  

Or negative in general

2019-02-12 16:29:26 UTC  

So this highlights my concern (or maybe curiosity) about this issue.

2019-02-12 16:30:13 UTC  

Is how we categorize mental disorders, diseases, abnormalities, etc. socially determined and defined or scientifically?

2019-02-12 16:30:29 UTC  

or are those two categorizations not mutually exclusive?

2019-02-12 16:30:45 UTC  

A lot of basic human traits have been incorrectly made pathological

2019-02-12 16:31:19 UTC  

i.e. California no longer mandating divulging your HIV to a sexual partner (if I'm referencing that properly) in order to reduce the stigma associated with having HIV...

2019-02-12 16:31:22 UTC  

I don't think they are mutually exclusive