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2017-09-20 19:15:13 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

2017-09-21 03:06:16 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

Economic downtrurn will happen in the next 20 years without a doubt. Just look at our unfunded liabilities and the fact that most americans are deep in debt. When america defaults and has to create super inflation to pay back debts the whole economy is gonna tank and we'll see an end to the petro dollar.

2017-09-21 14:58:05 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

silver makes more sense then gold because of spot price per ounce. Plus, if we go to oregon there is a chance of us finding silver or gold on the property. the nice thing about a currency is that it works as a medium of exchange if you need something but nobody wants your stuff.

2017-09-21 15:43:27 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

I've been reading about gold mining in oregon and it looks like people still find surface level gold in riverbeds.
buying copper should be done in bulk.

2017-09-21 16:45:21 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@skyon what about a crypto backed by real world metal reserves? could we make our own bitcoin like currenecy and use it as an in between for community trade?

2017-09-21 16:46:53 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

not bitcoin though. Anybody remember when they used be under $100 a coin?

2017-09-21 16:55:25 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

I see that a few of the members in this server are in programing or related fields, could one of you take a look at this article and see if it's possible to make our own crypto.

2017-09-21 18:14:29 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

That is impossible in the modern day. Soy is used as a protien additive in animal feed and human food.

2017-09-21 18:15:50 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

@Rin how would you explain the rise in gay and trans people other than an incease in soy in people's diets and ((them))?

2017-09-21 18:21:38 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

Men have always been gay. You can see evidence in every culture. However, they were always a tiny portion of the population. Now we have an unprecidented increase in gays that corrolates with a diet higher in soy. >inb4 correlation doesn't equal causation. Just look at food lables and tell me how many of them contain either soy meal or soybean oil. Then add the fact that most livestock feed is supplimented with soybeans for protien.

2017-09-21 18:27:56 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

I agree. However science has proven that women who eat foods high in plant estrogen have a higher risk of cancer due to hormone imbalances.

2017-09-21 18:32:40 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

no, estrogen is a naturally occuring hormone. Some plants like soy make a lot whereas others like corn don't. My point is that soy consumption increases estrogen in both men and women.

2017-09-21 18:34:44 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

Right, it affects women hormonally but not men for some reason.

2017-09-21 18:36:06 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

I wonder what that reason might be?

2017-09-21 18:38:11 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

It effects hormone levels in a meaningful way for women, so I don't eat it even though I'm a man.

2017-09-21 18:39:37 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

"Plant estrogens do not eliminate all of estrogen's effects, but they do minimize them, apparently reducing breast cancer risk and menstrual symptoms." you just quoted it affecting women who consume it.

2017-09-21 18:40:49 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

I think we're gonna have to agree to disaggree on this point.

2017-09-21 18:41:51 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

yes, both are made from cholesterol. they both serve a purpose in regulating our body.

2017-09-21 18:51:56 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

it has to do with how they consume it. They ferment it to remove/nulify the effects that soy enzymes and protien have on their diet. In the US we don't properly process the soy to remove the harmful parts. Most cooking oil contains soybean oil that is just squeezed out of the bean without processing it.

2017-09-21 18:55:35 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

do you eat seaweed? I only eat it in sushi, soybean oil is a daily occurance.

2017-09-21 18:59:55 UTC [Cascade Front #off-topic]  

The oil is in eveything. That is my concern.

2017-09-21 19:20:21 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  


2017-09-21 19:25:59 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

Gay space communist.

2017-09-21 19:44:36 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  


2017-09-21 19:57:59 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

its orchid if you haven't figured it out.

2017-09-21 20:04:36 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

microwaving your battery will help charge it if you have a laptop.

2017-09-21 20:36:18 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

Our best bet is 5 or 6 guys who move out in april to clear land and start building houses.

2017-09-21 20:37:53 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

well, now isn't the time to move. Growing season is over and winter will soon be upon us.

2017-09-21 20:39:51 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@Orchid I'd like to be close to a large city. We'll need supplies and jobs from a city in the begining.

2017-09-21 20:40:29 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@K_Wagner that place is way too expensive for us to afford without a (((loan))).

2017-09-21 20:54:37 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

feeding people is expensive, so will probably want to go in early spring when sleeping in a tent doesn't suck. then we can grow our own food and sell excess produce to raise funds for further expansion.

2017-09-21 20:56:00 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

Ideally, it'd be a hotel for a week till a log cabin is built.

2017-09-21 20:56:53 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

We could do shipping contanors.

2017-09-21 20:58:41 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@ram3n that's my point. 6 men should be able to build a log cabin in a week. Then we keep clearing land to plant crops and grow a pasture.

2017-09-21 21:00:31 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@K_Wagner if our ancestors could build a house that lasted the winter without modern tecnology we should be able to do it too.

2017-09-21 21:00:52 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

We would be starting during the spring.

2017-09-21 21:01:59 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

or I don't know, a fire place.

2017-09-21 21:04:39 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

mossy rock has an average winter low of 20F. That's 40F warmer than my home of wisconsin.

2017-09-21 21:05:55 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@ram3n 90 F in july and august.

2017-09-21 21:07:34 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@K_Wagner log cabins are gonna be temporary while we clear land and plant crops. We probably wont have modern housing, but we could do old world manors.

2017-09-21 21:09:08 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

The idea of log cabins is that they are cheap and an okay type of housing.

2017-09-21 21:10:18 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@K_Wagner check out the finnish log house in the other channel.

2017-09-21 21:14:46 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@K_Wagner homestaeading near the top.

2017-09-21 21:22:16 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

It depends on the cow, cow's age and feed. Personaly I perfer more animals because it minimizes the chance of catastophry.
P.S. did you know that there are dairy sheep breeds.

2017-09-21 21:28:09 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

how about this place?
it is close enough to seatle that we can get jobs in the city and far enough away that nig-nogs wont be able to find it.

2017-09-21 21:34:19 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

I'll be back in an hour guys.

2017-09-21 22:43:20 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

Guys, I hate to say it but mossy rock isn't gonna work. Just look at the prices per acre. We could buy one acre on the island or 20 on the mainland.

2017-09-21 22:50:58 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

washington oregon
Both of these places are large enough to support a few people and close enough to a large city for jobs and supplies.

2017-09-21 22:55:07 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

Yeah, if everybody chipped in a few grand we could move in next week.

2017-09-21 22:56:28 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

No idea, hoping someone else would figure that out.

2017-09-21 22:58:21 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

Somebody with a good credit score could buy it with a mortgage and as we show up we bring money to pay it off. If I understand correctly there isn't a downside to paying it off early.

2017-09-21 22:59:30 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

I like it. We make a "fake" kickstarter project to raise money for buying land.

2017-09-21 23:00:19 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

giving back to mother earth

2017-09-21 23:02:15 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

plus, farm produce is a good way to make money.

2017-09-21 23:03:12 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@ram3n do you honestly think niggers are gonna give money to whitey so he can gro organic food?

2017-09-21 23:04:58 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

I'm white.
t. turkish rape baby serbian

2017-09-21 23:06:15 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

I have no idea. all I know is that it was created by a finn.

2017-09-21 23:15:02 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

could we have housing owned by the farm we "work" for?

2017-09-21 23:18:46 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

once we own the land we can parcel it out by changing the deed with the county.

roman catholic

2017-09-22 00:21:57 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]
most of these points can be applied to goats as well.

2017-09-22 00:28:16 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

yeah, I don't think cotton would be possible in the PNW

2017-09-22 00:31:24 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

Wool if marketed correctly can be sold to people for crafts.

2017-09-22 00:33:05 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

no, moths eat wool.

2017-09-22 00:34:23 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

they also make a fattier milk. This is great for making cheeses.

2017-09-22 00:36:11 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

@K_Wagner Wool has lanolin that makes it waterproof. the reason wool clothes get wet is because we remove it when we clean wool.

2017-09-22 00:39:53 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

the really nice thing about sheep and goats is that it's easy to downsize is feeding them becomes a problem. You can kill a few and still have herd. the same can't be said for cows.

2017-09-22 00:40:42 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  


2017-09-22 00:43:13 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

@Mitere the first few "houses" will be log cabins, so mud in between the logs will probably be our insulation.

2017-09-22 00:44:33 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

We could use pine tar.

2017-09-22 00:49:18 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

These are temporary house for people to sleep in while they build better ones. The plan so far is that a few guys go out next april to start clearing land and grow food.

2017-09-22 00:50:08 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  


2017-09-22 00:50:39 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

damnit I thought they'd be in the same line.

2017-09-22 00:54:51 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

@Ghostler I agree. However, moving to the PNW in the winter isn't possible and summer is too late to get any food grown.

2017-09-22 01:02:36 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

@K_Wagner it's 2 weeks to get everything planted then the occansional watering and weeding. plus if a few people go then they can work in two groups.

2017-09-22 01:40:18 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  


2017-09-22 05:29:38 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

We finally answered the question "are traps gay".

2017-09-22 05:34:08 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

Seriously though, we had a talk about our future goals as a group mainly with a focus on bonding activities over on the maine server. we also found out what a few members of the group wanted to get out of the project. It was basically 9 guys shitposting with the occasinal break to talk about the PNW.

2017-09-22 05:43:20 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

a few of us wanna move out and build temporary log cabins. these will be built when we first move out. We're shooting for april of next year to let us build "houses" and try to get some form of food growing.

2017-09-22 14:56:00 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@ram3n why did (((they))) ruin the game?

2017-09-22 15:02:16 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

@ram3n it really depends on the place we go to. Root vegetables like potatos or carrots don't do well with waterlogged soil. As far as fruits I think we should focus on fruit trees that are true to seed. Those would include apricots, peaches, some plums and sour cherries. All of these trees are self fruitful and true to seed. Later we can focus on pomme fruits like pears and apples. We should also look into nut trees. Walnuts, hickory nuts, hazelnuts and chestnuts should all be possible.

2017-09-24 01:41:36 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@Rin how do I mark on the map?

2017-09-24 02:32:48 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@Orchid those things look horrible. It's a crappier version of a hostel. We won't be living like this for our community. A man needs privacy.

2017-09-24 02:36:45 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

No, I'd be the dick head who'd blast porn at 3 in the morning to fuck with my podmates. I think (((they))) would love it though.

2017-09-24 02:39:18 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@Rin yeah, nothing gets me going more than 8 other guys jerking of while i'm doing that.

2017-09-24 23:06:19 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@woa because (((they))) will cut our power in an attempt to shoah us. We'll have to burn wood to stay warm.

2017-09-24 23:27:00 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

I'd rather die than be a maple nigger.

2017-09-24 23:35:23 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@ lorenzo we can price out of section 8 rates. That stops niggers and spics. Keeping (((them))) out probably isn't possible, so we should try to stay under the radar until the US collapses.

2017-09-25 00:36:34 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@Rin what would you call habitual? Once a week, Once a month, everyday.

2017-09-25 00:38:51 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@Rin I'm gonna have to disagree on the weekly part. After 5 days of work a man should be able to unwind.

2017-09-25 00:39:47 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@ram3n we would have to have a distilery permit to make and sell alcohol.

2017-09-25 00:43:37 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@Rin some states allow making wine or beer for personal use.

2017-09-25 00:45:47 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@Saxon it depends on the sect. The ones who live near me act like jews, not hard working simple folk.

2017-09-25 00:47:54 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

How are we gonna pay taxes and buy tools if we don't sell our goods. We don't need to be flashy, but we do need a source of income for expansion. If we're near a large city farmers markets can make us tons of money.

2017-09-25 00:49:24 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@spudman I see us more like the mennonites. They still use some modern tecnology and are more lax on religion.

2017-09-25 00:51:07 UTC [Cascade Front #homesteading-general]  

@Orchid good luck getting a license to make and sell your whiskey.

2017-09-25 00:56:54 UTC [Cascade Front #general]  

@Rin People at the farmers market in my city sell organic hierloom tomatoes for $4.00 a pound. Agriculture prices depend on where you are in the nation.

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