Message from @dmac100

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2017-09-21 18:23:46 UTC  

Also, most of these "gays" nowdays grow out of it.

2017-09-21 18:24:04 UTC  

Which shows that it's more of a trend than a biological fact.

2017-09-21 18:25:18 UTC  

Are there really more gays today? What percentage did it used to be, and what is it now?

2017-09-21 18:25:27 UTC  

I don't see any evidence that it is inherently biological at all unless you consider effeminate physical characteristics as a reinforcer for the behavior. I really do believe it's a mental disorder.

2017-09-21 18:25:52 UTC  

I doubt it Orchid, they are being over reported now, and before they were severely uinderreported.

2017-09-21 18:26:27 UTC  

Also it's been made out to be "trendy"

2017-09-21 18:26:32 UTC  

i have no reason to believe more people are gay today either

2017-09-21 18:26:43 UTC  

Up until recently most gays would never self report themselves as gay.

2017-09-21 18:26:56 UTC  

That in itself explains the rise.

2017-09-21 18:27:25 UTC  

Add cultural marxism to that pot, and you get a recipe for modern day.

2017-09-21 18:27:56 UTC  

I agree. However science has proven that women who eat foods high in plant estrogen have a higher risk of cancer due to hormone imbalances.

2017-09-21 18:29:26 UTC  

So on that note does home-grown, organic produce nullify this?

2017-09-21 18:29:49 UTC  

Hormones cant be delivered orally I think. The pharmecutical pill arent hormones, they block the inhibitors in your body that keep your own hormones in check.

2017-09-21 18:30:10 UTC  

If you want to intake hormones, it has to be done via injection.

2017-09-21 18:31:43 UTC  

Besides is thewre even any evidence that "plant estrogen" even has any effect on humans?

2017-09-21 18:32:18 UTC  

Even if it could survive digestion?

2017-09-21 18:32:40 UTC  

no, estrogen is a naturally occuring hormone. Some plants like soy make a lot whereas others like corn don't. My point is that soy consumption increases estrogen in both men and women. http://www.pcrm.org/health/cancer-resources/ask/ask-the-expert-soy

2017-09-21 18:33:39 UTC  

lol did you read that before posting it?

2017-09-21 18:33:49 UTC  

"Plant estrogens do not eliminate all of estrogen's effects, but they do minimize them, apparently reducing breast cancer risk and menstrual symptoms."

2017-09-21 18:34:01 UTC  

They do the exact opposite of what you are saying.

2017-09-21 18:34:44 UTC  

Right, it affects women hormonally but not men for some reason.

2017-09-21 18:34:46 UTC  

"For men and boys, the phytoestrogens in soy do not appear to have any effect on hormone levels and have not been shown to affect sexual development or fertility. Research studies show that men consuming soy have less prostate cancer and better prostate cancer survival."

2017-09-21 18:36:06 UTC  

I wonder what that reason might be?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359543739393245193/360494417313792001/2Q.png

2017-09-21 18:36:25 UTC  

So at very most, it may make some women a bit more manly, that is if they managed to eat enough of it. And even that seems far fetched.

2017-09-21 18:37:27 UTC  

There are so many things that have much more drastic effects on your body and hormone levels that people do everyday.

2017-09-21 18:37:37 UTC  

Smoking for example.

2017-09-21 18:38:11 UTC  

It effects hormone levels in a meaningful way for women, so I don't eat it even though I'm a man.

2017-09-21 18:38:20 UTC  

Or even just being in a relationship, changes your hormone levels.

2017-09-21 18:38:31 UTC  

But it doesn't.

2017-09-21 18:38:53 UTC  

Show me a study where they made women eat soy everyday and thier breasts shrink.

2017-09-21 18:39:10 UTC  

Or they start liking women. Or start lactating.

2017-09-21 18:39:37 UTC  

"Plant estrogens do not eliminate all of estrogen's effects, but they do minimize them, apparently reducing breast cancer risk and menstrual symptoms." you just quoted it affecting women who consume it.

2017-09-21 18:39:56 UTC  

Yeah, but those aren't meaningful ways.

2017-09-21 18:40:20 UTC  

Meaningful negative ways at least.

2017-09-21 18:40:32 UTC  

If anything, they are just healthy.

2017-09-21 18:40:49 UTC  

I think we're gonna have to agree to disaggree on this point.

2017-09-21 18:40:58 UTC  

You do know that men have estrogen too right?

2017-09-21 18:41:51 UTC  

yes, both are made from cholesterol. they both serve a purpose in regulating our body.

2017-09-21 18:42:30 UTC  

Think about this, Soy comes from and is primarily consumed in the east, they probably have the lowest gay population in the world.

2017-09-21 18:42:41 UTC  

Explain that.

2017-09-21 18:43:06 UTC  

Japan in particular.