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Primitive Technology is 😤
>builds shit in arcadia
i know fertilizer derived from human feces is used in the US, however its only allowed for growing cattle feed and other things not directly consumed by humans
If you want to use human feces, put it in a compost bin with food waste and some worms
Give it multiple months to process
It sucks living in an apartment for all of this ): can't grow much of anything
Right channel. 😏
If you want to grow stuff inside, keep an aquarium. You can use the water from it to grow stuff in a bed of gravel. The fish fertilize the crop, and the crop filters the water
What type of stuff would you suggest growing? I only have a studio apartment unfortunately
Start with herbs
And a small aquarium with some goldfish or koi
is there any vegetables that would grow well in places like indiana?
How would you suggest making the gravel pit? Like what sort of frame?
I've got carpet so it can't be on the floor
Just a small Tupperware container will work fine
You'll want some sitting water just below the level of the gravel
Would dirt/soil work as well, as opposed to the fish tank?
It's called aquaponics farming
It would. The appeal of the fish tank is that its cleaner for inside
But a little box with soil would work fine too
Alright! Tomorrow I'll go the store and look around a bit and see what I can find. I'll keep you all updated
One problem with the soil however- you have to make sure it stays fertile
How would you test for that?
That part I'm not sure about
Well, what makes soul fertile?
nutrients in the soil
all kinds of stuff
I just have a few worms and food waste
It goes a long way for keeping it fertile
Hrmm, rotting food and worms inside an apartment don't sound like the smartest idea...
At least if I don't want to have to keep my window open 24/7
If you keep the food buried, the smell isn't very noticeable. But I might just not notice it anymore
You can just buy fertilizer for this sort of thing at Lowes
True. Would Home Depot or Lowes be a good place to start looking for this kind of stuff?
i'm gonna see if i can try and build a shed or something as a summer project
to store fertilizer in
I usually get stuff for my diy projects from Home Depot and Lowes. Anything they don't have I just go to amazon for
Where would you suggest looking for Herbs to grow?
Home Depot sells little bags with seeds in them
Lowes probably does too
Alright, I'll go looking tomorrow. Thanks Bradley!
I'm thinking about doing more peas, but a lot of potatoes next year 😄
Maybe sweet potatoes 🤔
Taters are neat 😄
I love making hash browns
Oho, noooow I know what to make for lunch tommorow!
I just made sandwiches for lunch today, but I think we have some potatoes in the fridge 👀
i might try my hand at homemade potato pancakes
once i grow some potatoes
*Very spicy* 🤔
I might try to make pancakes, or bread, with my quitch-flour 😄
Once I get around to actually turning it into flour
i've always been looking for motivation
because i barely have any
but i feel like i've finally found something
with this and /esg/
i've found my calling
Very nice! 😃
I don't really know about my motivation, it's something like "If I don't do this my dreams won't come true" and thus my dreams enable me to push harder and what not
i've just hit a point in my life
where i feel like i should have *some* motivation
Remember, motivation is a false god. True success comes from determination
Nah I've found that the middleground is best
Like sure doing something because you're determined to do it and your standard is "it gets done", but it becomes a lot better when you're motivated to do it
As long as you don't *depend* on motivation
What is the exact plan, as far as this specific channel?
Anything homesteading/prepper/survival related.
Ah I see
What's the general then for overall discussion?
Yeah, anything that doesn't fit in the other channels I suppose.
this is for stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vuMSoQzYfs
Oh my bad, survival stuff would go in <#359944897676967946> .
i guess it depends on the type of survival
Probably should just merge these.
im worried about too many overlapping conversations
Well, most discussion in one is applicable to the other.
Doesn't really matter either way.
Zennex17, to answer your question from the sig chat: it's a new hobby for me and I haven't harvested anything yet. But I think that lettuce in the pic is about ready and it's been ~3 weeks since the seeds sprouted from the rockwool.
Only the self-sufficient man is free
here's the website for their kit. https://emergencywaterwell.com/product-category/diy-water-well-kits/
Anyone know anything about bovines?
Anyone have any experience with family milk cows, on the topic of self-sufficiency?
Not much, I knew some folks that had a milk cow. They also had a couple goats and said that the goats ended up producing more milk for their size than the cow.
It depends on the cow, cow's age and feed. Personaly I perfer more animals because it minimizes the chance of catastophry. http://www.backwoodshome.com/bovine-basics-for-beginners/
P.S. did you know that there are dairy sheep breeds.
Sheep herding would give the ladies plenty of work and generate a nice income for the community
maybe putting up our best livestock for studding
Anyone know anything about sheep?
not really tbh
also here's a bit of something on agriculture if we decide on mossy rock
I know orchards are huge in WA and OR
What sort of orchards?
Christmas tree farming?
im not sure what particular fruits they grow
no, fruit trees
Damn we could found a fashy cider brewry lol
the image i just posted comes from my link
Apple orchards.. That's a god-tier life
Berries too, again lots of products we could make with those harvests
All natural too
Lady and child friendly work too, picking apples and berries
I want to brew alcohol someday
theres something really comfy about it
i want to raise good, white children who understand work ethic
who work around the house
literally only thing i want
On the subject of homeschooling
but yeah alcohol brewing might be fun
We can get away with not having a (((school))) in our community if we all do it
And yeah I like the idea of a brewery. Folkish work and will generate income.
or we can simply build a private school
otherwise rural schools are still much more redpilled than urban ones
As long as we don't have to worry about "teacher, daddy is a nazi and so are all my neighbors"
*knock knock* child services
Also, anyone seen this? Super cheap, easy money, will help other crops
I would definitely put a few of these up
forgot about those
This design used artificial combs for the bees
No more smoking them to get the honey
Now more killing bees by breaking the honeycombs
The honey flows right out of a fucking tap!
Just watch the video
i love it
We can build schools and have our own teachers
maybe the parents could teach a basis for the child to work off of
I'm going for management and teaching in uni
a teaching degree
I have a teaching degree
I'd rather do real work
But I guess that's an option
For their sakes
Not using state books tho
Because I dont think homeschooling is good.
honestly the main reason (((they))) can so easily brainwash children is because the parents fail to get to their own children first and instil proper virtues and morals
Better than sending them to holocaust and slavery school though
i feel like modern parents have just lost their ability to instill virtues and morals
and instead just push equality onto them
Our people did fine without schools until the 1920's
or put the responsibility of parenting on those teachers
or the TV
or the media
which is why we have so many wigger children i'm p sure
only care about money
Rich white kids and media with pop music
So here's the question. If, as a community, we all specialize in one area (one person is a shepherd, another orchardman, another wheat, etc) we'd be more dependent upon each other, but it'd probably be more efficient than everyone managing a little of everything. Is this a desirable outcome?
sounds good to me
We'd need to know the numbers and specializations of people beforehand, though, that way we're not setting a potato farmer on a mountainside.
Run it like a medieval fiefdom, but without the king -- everyone has a role
I'm so obsessed with these things.. It's really a marvel
most of these points can be applied to goats as well.
would be nice
yeah, I don't think cotton would be possible in the PNW
And again, wool harvesting and processing is women-friendly work, which is a plus in the long run
Wool if marketed correctly can be sold to people for crafts.
Excellent. We could even make them into crafts ourselves to sell.
Set up weaver shops and what not for the women
could wool possibly be used as natural insulators
no, moths eat wool.
if you like fire, i guess
Wool doesn't burn.
Doesn't it rot though?
they also make a fattier milk. This is great for making cheeses.
I've been lied to by my home ec teacher from middle school then
I watched a guy drunkenly fall into a fire before, the only reason he didn't go the ER is because he had a wool jacket on it and it saved his skin. Literally.
Wool is good for fabrics, crafts, etc. It's also naturally more waterproof than many other fabrics, and is flame-resistant.
It'd be good for making water filters
I shouldn't say "Doesn't burn" as pretty much anything will burn, but wool is a protein fiber according to google, which makes it burn very slowly.
@K_Wagner Wool has lanolin that makes it waterproof. the reason wool clothes get wet is because we remove it when we clean wool.
And like Nix said, wool doesn't absorb water like cotton or other materials.
Wool isn't cheap to make. Using it for insulation isn't the first place you want to put it.
There's a reason almost every army in the world at one time issued Wool jackets to their soldiers.
Flame resistant. And no, water filters are better with sand and charcoal. Wool is much better in socks and heavy costs, especially in PNW.
coats* stupid autocorrect
Straw would make a better insulator, though you need to change it from time to time to avoid mildew.
Like thatch roofs.
Honestly, snow is its own insulator.
Not to mention the houses should be sturdy to begin with. If you absolutely must have insulation, straw or pine needles work, or shredded bark.
Really though, the best insulation is a well-made house. At least as far as I understand.
the really nice thing about sheep and goats is that it's easy to downsize is feeding them becomes a problem. You can kill a few and still have herd. the same can't be said for cows.
Well, the house itself acts as a barrier from the ice and snow. Thick walls make it harder for the outside cold to get in. Insulation helps actually keep the heat in, better insulation, less wood or propane you have to burn to heat the house.
@dmac100 agreed, and you can raise many more sheep and goats per acre than cows.
For starters, animals smaller than bovine would be a good idea.
@Mitere the first few "houses" will be log cabins, so mud in between the logs will probably be our insulation.
That will increase rot and pests.
Pitch could be used.
But that increases fires. Used throughout history.
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