Message from @Undead Mockingbird

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2018-10-02 19:08:25 UTC  

According to politics not too long ago, both parties would be left.

2018-10-02 19:08:57 UTC  

if you judge it by TODAY'S standard of what "left" is, then you would say the left would be right wing

2018-10-02 19:09:07 UTC  

while the right has shifted slightly left to at least some degree

2018-10-02 19:09:16 UTC  

Yes. That is why I referred to a shifting center.

2018-10-02 19:09:39 UTC  

Left and right only makes sense in relation to the current center, not as absolute terms, in that context.

2018-10-02 19:10:40 UTC  

Otherwise, they would still refer to the original meaning of pro monarchy and pro democracy affiliations, as the term was first used during the French Revolution.

2018-10-02 19:10:55 UTC  

Now, it's kind of murky what "left" and "right" means.

2018-10-02 19:11:26 UTC  

If Hitler is extreme right and Stalin extreme left, what am I? Halfway between Stalin and Hitler? That makes no sense.

2018-10-02 19:13:35 UTC  

hitler is third position

2018-10-02 19:28:46 UTC  

@Deleted User thats the plan.
Downside of splitting that way is the right tends to not change when needed. without the left to pull them forward the right only leads to stagnation

2018-10-02 19:29:09 UTC  

also good oppersition keeps people working on better ideas.

2018-10-02 19:29:44 UTC  

@oprahsminge yes mate, the Conservative party in the UK is majority centre left now

2018-10-02 19:30:02 UTC  

as the overton window shifted.

2018-10-02 19:30:10 UTC  

they went with it

2018-10-02 19:31:06 UTC  

@Undead Mockingbird Hitler wasnt extreme right. some of his ideas were but mostly he was a far lefty

2018-10-02 19:31:20 UTC  

Well, pick whoever you like.

2018-10-02 19:31:23 UTC  

šŸ˜ƒ

2018-10-02 19:31:34 UTC  

You will probably find that it makes just as little sense to present it as a continuous spectrum.

2018-10-02 19:32:12 UTC  

I think as long as we all keep talking and no one starts claiming X group is superior/inferior/evil/good ect we should make it through this folly

2018-10-02 19:32:29 UTC  

Agreed.

2018-10-02 19:32:38 UTC  

Except people who put toilet paper upset down.

2018-10-02 19:32:43 UTC  

the individual is the only minority that matters šŸ˜ƒ

2018-10-02 19:32:51 UTC  

hahaha ā¤

2018-10-02 19:33:45 UTC  

There is ONE proper way to put the toilet paper on the holder. All humans should have rights - except the ones that put the toilet paper coming from UNDER onto the holder.

2018-10-02 19:34:08 UTC  

If we could eliminate all such people, utopia would be achieved.

2018-10-02 19:34:18 UTC  

#VoteMockingbird2020

2018-10-02 19:34:32 UTC  

I honestly just slap the roll on without looking

2018-10-02 19:34:43 UTC  

I cannot be controlled. I am the overhuman

2018-10-02 19:35:14 UTC  

^ did you get affected by the kid earlier

2018-10-02 19:35:31 UTC  

No. I'm just disappointed

2018-10-02 19:37:50 UTC  

Don't be disappointed. I'm sure I'll be elected.

2018-10-02 19:37:59 UTC  

unlikely

2018-10-02 19:38:07 UTC  

With a platform like that, there is no way I can lose.

2018-10-02 19:38:15 UTC  

best of luck

2018-10-02 19:38:18 UTC  

thx

2018-10-02 21:00:43 UTC  

@Jes Iā€™d define Hitler as centre right

2018-10-02 21:00:50 UTC  

Imo

2018-10-02 21:01:10 UTC  

in aggregate yeah.

2018-10-02 21:01:31 UTC  

you cant put it in normal left right scale.
its third postition....

2018-10-02 21:02:05 UTC  

It depends on who you ask

2018-10-02 21:02:16 UTC  

Some people say Hitler is all sorts of things