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1791L uploaded a new video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEUzhtx5Dvw
Excited for Thomas Sowell to talk to Dave Rubin?
I gotta get Sowell's books
stil haven't finished it
not much time unfortunatley
but will eventually
how many times does this have to happen
Sam Hyde strikes again
Will no one take him down!!!!
who is this hacker 4chan?
woah what Thomas Sowell and Dave Rubin?
its going to be happing soon
he mentioned it in his last video withOwen Benjamin
It's so sad, really, to see such a de- emphasis of education in black communities
Thomas Sowell is one of the most underrated public intellectuals ever.
The system has barely changed since then which makes things worse
The system has barely changed since fucking Booker T Washington
Well alright, hyperbole, but when you see things like this being written 107 years ago:
"There is another class of coloured people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs."
one really has to wonder.
@radeon If you mix a black person with an IQ of 70 with a White person with an IQ of 105 you are going to get a child that has an IQ lower than 105. That is pretty basic genetics
IF this was true, society would be a bunch of brain dead barbarians,
regression to the mean
>Even if the white parent has the dominant gene, the IQ will likely not be higher than 105 regardless. Are you impliying that the other parent's genes have no influence on the child's genetic makeup?
Dominant gene is a keyword
>If you mix a pygmy with a Nordic, should we expect the child to be either 100% black or 100% white? No, the child would be somewhere in the middle
That is just stupid
Analizing just skin color, the result tend to be more to the white side.
well, 10+20/2 would = 15, but I'mma go out on a limb here and say that genetics is a tad more complicated than basic math
have yall read any of Sowells books?
It's weird; I've known and respected him for many years simply by seeing his interviews on TV, but still haven't sat down to actually read a damn book of his
I'm not sure what to read first, I'm thinking Basic Economics.
>I can tell you that miscenegation is the sole reason the average IQ of an african-american is 85, compared to the 65-70 you'd expect if they were 100% Negroid
if that's the case, race mixing is a good thing...
i couldnt find the original study but here is one that explains it somewhat
"Basic Eco" and "Black Rednecks" are on my to-read-first list
and i think looking at it through the lense of race is counter productive
Basic Economics is good
I listened to part of black rednecks and I found it to be quite world-view altering.
Gotta git ya levels of analysis right, boi.
Race is tricky.
and misapplied 99% of the time
Because most """race realists""" don't understand genetics
Have you seen Jean-Francois Gariepy?
Race realist who definitely understands genetics
I will check them out
TL;DR did a really good video on the heritability of IQ
as it stands right now
thanks for the link
JF > Sargon
He does require patience though
He is too arrogant, tried to watch one of his videos and it was annoying
I dont get this whole race and IQ thing
the vet came here to see my dog and i had to help her
People arent created equal
i left in the middle of the conversation
If you say so
@franti Look, some people need a reason to fell better and superior, so they come up with shitty reaons to feel superior.
If everyone had the exact same skin tone, people would come up with something else
What would happen If these people were in charge. They become dodgy when I ask foe policy specifics
These people being?
Race realist =/= white nationalist
You have to admit there's a heavy overlap
@Fulcrum010 I've seen arrogance used to dismiss pretty much every intellectual there is, Sargon included
Unfortunately there is a huge overlap because the two are conflated by the left
@BrianBoru watching his vid he is making a couple of erroneous claims so far
there are people who would be legitimately offended at you saying that
then again it's the snowflake SJW's so who cares
Intellectuals are those who discuss ideas civilly on the public forum
Please point out his erroneous claims, because he is always looking for insightful criticism
oh no I agree with you
sargon is an intellectual
Like I tried to tell Charles Darwinist multiple times, I acknowledge the existence of differences between races, I just give a flying fuck about it.
The first statement into it, he claims the fact that we have dif skin color proves race
it is broken down further than just how the USA measures demographic info
Now, a serious question
do you guys think that guys like him, who just want to flame the server, should be banned?
I don't think he's trolling
no they should be able to speak
Not unless they start ad hominem or spam
They should be able to speak their mind, but without spamming.
Or gore spam
This is a private server ait the end of the day
that's why i'm asking
Imo at this point banning him would just be closed-minded
because, i don't want to wake up enter here and see
he ended up addressing it
But If we started banning people for not having the same opinion we would be living in a glass house under a ravine
the opinion doesn't matter
if we disagree it's fine
just no spam
He went in guns blazing I give you that
Fair enough I suppose. I told you he requires patience
i guess he tought anyone else would agree with him
Who are we talking about
up the talk a bit
we had our first race realist
I'd say keep it contained in one channel
not a bad idea
I'm a race realist 😮
not on his level
Whatever that means
You are not an asshole about it
Yeah, @BrianBoru are you like me that you acknowledge it but don't give a shit
i think it needs to be addressed in Measures of Effectivness
I care that people acknowledge reality though
He had this sense of smugness about him
The only race realists I have a problem with are the "ethno-state" types.
he didn't even calles us SJW, so i guess it went well
That would be white nationalists
I also have major problems with them
still, let's see tomorrow
I acknowledge the reality, it's just that I don't think policy should reflect it because it is possible to rise above, for example, the average IQ of a race.
and see if he bring some friends
They're the same thing, imo
Well you're wrong Dr
I don't want to be a race realist, yet I see how different areas of the world progress so vastly differently, yet at the same time, I see that it could largely be because of environment.
I don't know. However it is, I just try to treat everyone chill
don't be a dick
that's the golden rule
There is overwhelming evidence to suggest that races have genetic differences
That is race realism
if you believe it or not, it's irrelevant
and i guess that's the problem here
No value judgments need come from it necessarily
Is vs Ought anyone?
The issues with race realism seem to be policy implications etc
oh, got it
never heard it like this before
Irrelevant to the truth of the observation of racial differences
That's pretty much where the arguments about race realism come from.
How is that the same thing as white nationalism? (Ought)
Depends on what kind of white nationalist you're talking about
The whitish nationalist-ish kind
There's the "keep white nations white via implying the law and kicking out illegal non-white" white nationalists and the "Ethno state" white nationalists.
Neither of those necessarily follows race realism
And I don't see the distinction really
But race realism can lead to it
It's a half step
Slippery slope huh?
not saying it's true for every race-realist though
Well can we recognize that we are intelligent adults who won't automatically fall down that slope?
So we can actually acknowledge reality
Intelligent adults? Nowadays?
Yes, you can
So conflating race realism with ethnonationalism is unproductive
It only fuels extremism on both sides
And i will admit, I am guilty of conflating these at one point
> They're the same thing, imo
@BrianBoru i guess everyone here knows that race exists and that some difference between then exists.
What we are talking about is the crowd that go, "blacks are genetically inferior" and etc
Then we are all race realists
Race realism =/= racial supremacy
the term race realist is used to describe a individual who tend to impose their bullshit on others, those individuals tend to be white supremacists
Black people are more susceptible to sickle cell anemia.
That use is a bullshit loading of the term
Poisoning the well
it's not bullshit
is how is used
And feminist means equality and communism means sharing
like, it's obvious that differences exists
Oh he got you on that one
I think what Fulcrum is saying is that race realist is an abused term
That is what I'm saying
for real Vee is on point about this,
the alt left dont even think that races don't even exists and the alt right thinks that they exists and blacks are brain dead people
Not exactly, but a decent simplification
at the end of the day, yeah, we are all race realists, but.... the term is not used to describe people who knows that some difference exists
meanwhile, you are playing the semantic cherry picking game to prove your point
I'm getting back to what the term actually means
To conflate it with something else is asinine
Race realism => race is real
Not I will force my belief in racial supremacy on you
Alt Left - races exist, we wuz KANGZ, down with white men.
Alt Right - races exist and white people are the best kind
Alt left is divided on existence of race
we are all the same and bla bla bla
inconsistency has been the Left's major flaw
I think it stems from guilt and insecurity
Intersectionality will be their greatest success and subsequent failure
Social justice cannibalism I call it
you will never be PC enough
PC master race
Praise the Mighty Computer Gods
The true gods be praised
GabeN watches over me and gives me strength....and 35% off counter strike
"You're not a real [Insert Political Ideology]!"
Not real communism
MOD ANARCHIST PICK ONE
the subreddit about anarchism have mods
and they even ban people
Guys anarchism works trust me I'm 16
Anarcho-facism is the only way forward tbh
Guys anarxhism works but not on our anarcho channel
this is a christian discord server, no bad words like anarchism here, please.
how dare you say heck on my christian minecraft server
I would like to see an example of a good an-cap society
If it is so good why is there no place where it is practiced by many people
It's not good
Ancap is AIDS
But they say it is the best thing since sliced bread /s
Quick post pictures of Emu to trigger australians
Post things that trigger Australians
Fucking boat people
That's not how that works
the german dude left the server?
As a Libertarian, I can confirm that "You're not a real Libertarian" is used a lot.
Pfff you're not even a real Libertarian though
anarcha feminism is the way to go