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2018-11-26 22:38:56 UTC

Yeah Theyโ€™re subhumans. But still they arenโ€™t terrorists.

2018-11-26 22:39:12 UTC

PKK are also commies. Kurdish worker party.

2018-11-26 22:39:28 UTC

YPG are Kurds in Syria, PKK are Kurds in Turkey

2018-11-26 22:39:43 UTC

all commies

2018-11-26 22:39:45 UTC

The Iraqi Kurds are the based ones

2018-11-26 22:40:03 UTC

PKK are the freedom fighters over there. The actual party in turkey arenโ€™t commies.

2018-11-26 22:40:05 UTC

Or at least, that's how US media portrays them

2018-11-26 22:40:18 UTC

Iraqi kurds are the best change my mind <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>

2018-11-26 22:41:30 UTC

Iโ€™m surprised an american even knows about kurds @Legiondude

2018-11-26 22:41:55 UTC

we use them to made cheese

2018-11-26 22:41:57 UTC

<:pepe_smug:378719408341909506>

2018-11-26 22:42:14 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2018-11-26 22:42:27 UTC

OH CURDS

2018-11-26 22:42:33 UTC

HAHAH

2018-11-26 22:42:41 UTC

i needed a minute

2018-11-26 22:44:13 UTC

@MountainMan Some of MSM talks about it, but they rarely distinguish between any of the Kurds and just blanket statement that we help the Kurds fight ISIS therefore all Kurds are good

2018-11-26 22:44:38 UTC

I bounce through alot of media sources throughout the day, so it's a bit more expanded than the typical American

2018-11-26 22:45:14 UTC

Ah okay

2018-11-26 22:45:41 UTC

Yeah I cant really say every kurd is great. Weโ€™ve a lot of commies. Most of them havent learnt of the past mistakes.

2018-11-26 22:45:47 UTC

Reminder of red kurdistan

2018-11-26 22:46:10 UTC

And they havent seen the wonders of capitalism lul so they donโ€™t know any better.

2018-11-26 22:46:50 UTC

Thats Why the Iraqi kurds and Irani kurds arent commies as often as the Turkish and Syrian kurds.

2018-11-26 23:08:40 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/516752181307637761/Ds4hTdAWoAA5NbC.png

2018-11-26 23:09:01 UTC

<:pepe_sweat:378719424548569088>

2018-11-26 23:09:21 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/516752349579182092/tenor.png

2018-11-26 23:09:27 UTC

I remember hearing a YPG American national say in a video somewhere on Youtube that Democratic Confederalism (the socialist political ideology of the YPG) is the best hope for the Kurds in Syria and for peaceful people in the middle east. Even as an anti-socialist I can't say he doesn't have a point, and he may even be right.

2018-11-26 23:11:41 UTC

At least it will let them establish SOME sort of state, which then might collapse and allow for a stable one to take its place

2018-11-26 23:19:25 UTC

Honestly I know how it sounds, but I think it isn't unreasonable to say that if the YPG could actually establish any sort of state in Rojava, that they would progressively democratize. But then, that only remains reasonable if they don't stay steeped in terrorism and war, or otherwise have someone like Assad, Erdogan, or Putin who want to interfere with the region.

Really my point is that regardless of what other people would want to do to them, I have faith in the Kurdish people.

2018-11-26 23:20:07 UTC

You have a point. An outside threat would probably make it work

2018-11-26 23:21:28 UTC

For a while at least lol

2018-11-26 23:57:09 UTC

The reason I grant credence to the idea that a more authority or centralized style of government would work is because of the instability of the region. An overly democratic society could very well result in another Iran, where the fluidity of a less order based style of government allowed for the Islamic radicals to easily regain control.

2018-11-26 23:59:18 UTC

Point being the response to corrupt authority is noble authority.

2018-11-27 00:06:41 UTC

Yeah there was an argument about Saddam and Qaddafi being assholes that kept the smaller assholes in line

2018-11-27 00:08:12 UTC

The typical libertarian aversion to a centralized style of government is summarized in the argument that the government should not have powers one would not want to fall into the wrong hands. However the possession of such power is in a sense the fundamental definition of a government in any case. Here, a centralized government sounds terrifying considering the Islamists could potentially take control of it. However, my belief is that it's probably more reasonable in this case to think that a strict method of rule would do better to keep them out than a lax one. Keeping them out, as well as other corrupt influencers, is primary to establishing stability.

2018-11-27 00:08:56 UTC

Liberty only works with a European cultural background

2018-11-27 02:00:31 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/516795427463495723/image0.jpg

2018-11-27 03:09:02 UTC

What about Roe Jogan's brother, Nog Jogan\?

2018-11-27 03:09:23 UTC

But they force you to give up everything you have as collateral. They take all you have and sell it until the taxes are paid. So you โ€œpayโ€ your taxes and get sent to prison.

2018-11-27 03:33:22 UTC

when do they do that? I thought you only just went to prison. I didn't know about giving away property as collateral

2018-11-27 03:43:12 UTC

post-modernism is useless

2018-11-27 08:18:28 UTC

the one thing the government is good at is to fuck you over if they find out you have not payed them what they want

2018-11-27 09:20:00 UTC

far left turning everyone right wing

but Macron is Centrist!

2018-11-27 09:24:20 UTC

<:thronk:441701565607444482> citation needed

Jean-Luc Mรฉlenchon was the Left-wing

No one proof reads anymore

2018-11-27 10:44:53 UTC

wups

2018-11-27 16:56:46 UTC

what

2018-11-27 16:56:47 UTC

i dont get it

๐Ÿคฆ๐Ÿฟ

2018-11-27 17:03:57 UTC

please explain

2018-11-27 17:08:08 UTC

oh

2018-11-27 17:08:09 UTC

lol

Brighton is the most Liberal City in the UK it's also famously <:gay:382982146249326612> ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

```A school in Brighton has 76 students who identify as transgender. 40 children don't identify with the gender they were assigned at birth, 36 say they are gender fluid. Trans activist Munroe Bergdorf says it's a result of society being liberal and accepting.```

2018-11-27 17:29:05 UTC

So children act out to seek attention. Imagine my shock.

2018-11-27 17:54:26 UTC

like just dont call people niggers randomly and you should probably be fine lmao. this isnt a new law now is it?

2018-11-27 17:55:31 UTC

Yeah, but calling people niggers shouldn't be illegal

2018-11-27 17:55:39 UTC

yeah true

2018-11-27 17:55:40 UTC

but still

2018-11-27 17:55:44 UTC

this isnt anything new

2018-11-27 17:56:18 UTC

and tbh wouldnt ya'll rather there be a site which tells you what can get you in trouble. instead of guessing?

2018-11-27 17:56:25 UTC

It's newly being enforced with enthusiasm

2018-11-27 17:56:33 UTC

yeet

2018-11-27 17:57:06 UTC

still. ya'll are gonna be fine. call them faggots in private. <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

2018-11-27 17:57:20 UTC

I'm not English, so I know I'll be fine

2018-11-27 17:57:42 UTC

ah I thought this was american

2018-11-27 17:57:47 UTC

didnt check

2018-11-27 17:57:55 UTC

then yeah this aint nothing new at all

2018-11-27 17:58:47 UTC

If this were American, I would have already grabbed my rifle and headed out by now

2018-11-27 17:59:33 UTC

don't you guys have hate speech laws already?

2018-11-27 18:02:25 UTC

Hell no. Our court stated that hate speech doesn't exist

2018-11-27 18:02:47 UTC

As in, it's not a legal classification

2018-11-27 18:03:03 UTC

nice af

2018-11-27 18:03:23 UTC

do you have one of those laws which bans supporting others to hurt people?

2018-11-27 18:03:30 UTC

dont remember the english word for it

2018-11-27 18:04:20 UTC

incitement of violence?

2018-11-27 18:04:31 UTC

yes

2018-11-27 18:05:40 UTC

Yeah, but it has to be provably obvious

2018-11-27 18:06:09 UTC

"Please kill @MountainMan this week. I will reward you"

2018-11-27 18:06:26 UTC

Ahhh okay.

2018-11-27 18:06:57 UTC

So for example planning to shoot up a place would be considered incitement of violence, yes?

2018-11-27 18:07:33 UTC

Possibly

2018-11-27 18:07:41 UTC

Violent threats

2018-11-27 18:08:22 UTC

Ahh okay.

2018-11-27 18:21:27 UTC

.gov.uk @MountainMan reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

2018-11-27 21:24:50 UTC

That's funny, she doesn't LOOK Uighur...

2018-11-27 23:37:16 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/517121763663020035/image0.png

2018-11-27 23:55:45 UTC

That's fucked. So fucked.

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