Message from @Fitzydog

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2018-11-26 22:39:28 UTC  

YPG are Kurds in Syria, PKK are Kurds in Turkey

2018-11-26 22:39:43 UTC  

all commies

2018-11-26 22:39:45 UTC  

The Iraqi Kurds are the based ones

2018-11-26 22:40:03 UTC  

PKK are the freedom fighters over there. The actual party in turkey aren’t commies.

2018-11-26 22:40:05 UTC  

Or at least, that's how US media portrays them

2018-11-26 22:40:18 UTC  

Iraqi kurds are the best change my mind <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>

2018-11-26 22:41:30 UTC  

I’m surprised an american even knows about kurds @Legiondude

2018-11-26 22:41:55 UTC  

we use them to made cheese

2018-11-26 22:41:57 UTC  

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2018-11-26 22:42:14 UTC  

🤔

2018-11-26 22:42:27 UTC  

OH CURDS

2018-11-26 22:42:33 UTC  

HAHAH

2018-11-26 22:42:41 UTC  

i needed a minute

2018-11-26 22:44:13 UTC  

@MountainMan Some of MSM talks about it, but they rarely distinguish between any of the Kurds and just blanket statement that we help the Kurds fight ISIS therefore all Kurds are good

2018-11-26 22:44:38 UTC  

I bounce through alot of media sources throughout the day, so it's a bit more expanded than the typical American

2018-11-26 22:45:14 UTC  

Ah okay

2018-11-26 22:45:41 UTC  

Yeah I cant really say every kurd is great. We’ve a lot of commies. Most of them havent learnt of the past mistakes.

2018-11-26 22:45:47 UTC  

Reminder of red kurdistan

2018-11-26 22:46:10 UTC  

And they havent seen the wonders of capitalism lul so they don’t know any better.

2018-11-26 22:46:50 UTC  

Thats Why the Iraqi kurds and Irani kurds arent commies as often as the Turkish and Syrian kurds.

2018-11-26 23:08:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/516752181307637761/Ds4hTdAWoAA5NbC.png

2018-11-26 23:09:01 UTC  

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2018-11-26 23:09:21 UTC  

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2018-11-26 23:09:27 UTC  

I remember hearing a YPG American national say in a video somewhere on Youtube that Democratic Confederalism (the socialist political ideology of the YPG) is the best hope for the Kurds in Syria and for peaceful people in the middle east. Even as an anti-socialist I can't say he doesn't have a point, and he may even be right.

2018-11-26 23:11:41 UTC  

At least it will let them establish SOME sort of state, which then might collapse and allow for a stable one to take its place

2018-11-26 23:19:25 UTC  

Honestly I know how it sounds, but I think it isn't unreasonable to say that if the YPG could actually establish any sort of state in Rojava, that they would progressively democratize. But then, that only remains reasonable if they don't stay steeped in terrorism and war, or otherwise have someone like Assad, Erdogan, or Putin who want to interfere with the region.

Really my point is that regardless of what other people would want to do to them, I have faith in the Kurdish people.

2018-11-26 23:20:07 UTC  

You have a point. An outside threat would probably make it work

2018-11-26 23:21:28 UTC  

For a while at least lol

2018-11-26 23:57:09 UTC  

The reason I grant credence to the idea that a more authority or centralized style of government would work is because of the instability of the region. An overly democratic society could very well result in another Iran, where the fluidity of a less order based style of government allowed for the Islamic radicals to easily regain control.

2018-11-26 23:59:18 UTC  

Point being the response to corrupt authority is noble authority.

2018-11-27 00:06:41 UTC  

Yeah there was an argument about Saddam and Qaddafi being assholes that kept the smaller assholes in line

2018-11-27 00:08:12 UTC  

The typical libertarian aversion to a centralized style of government is summarized in the argument that the government should not have powers one would not want to fall into the wrong hands. However the possession of such power is in a sense the fundamental definition of a government in any case. Here, a centralized government sounds terrifying considering the Islamists could potentially take control of it. However, my belief is that it's probably more reasonable in this case to think that a strict method of rule would do better to keep them out than a lax one. Keeping them out, as well as other corrupt influencers, is primary to establishing stability.

2018-11-27 00:08:56 UTC  

Liberty only works with a European cultural background

2018-11-27 02:00:31 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/372513679964635138/516795427463495723/image0.jpg

2018-11-27 03:09:02 UTC  

What about Roe Jogan's brother, Nog Jogan\?

2018-11-27 03:09:23 UTC  

But they force you to give up everything you have as collateral. They take all you have and sell it until the taxes are paid. So you “pay” your taxes and get sent to prison.

2018-11-27 03:33:22 UTC  

when do they do that? I thought you only just went to prison. I didn't know about giving away property as collateral

2018-11-27 03:43:12 UTC  

post-modernism is useless

2018-11-27 08:18:28 UTC  

the one thing the government is good at is to fuck you over if they find out you have not payed them what they want