Message from @MountainMan
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I’ll be sure to listen tommorow!
Thanks btw for sending me it.
PKK are not terrorists ree
They're communists tho
isn't that the YPG?
Yeah They’re subhumans. But still they aren’t terrorists.
PKK are also commies. Kurdish worker party.
YPG are Kurds in Syria, PKK are Kurds in Turkey
all commies
The Iraqi Kurds are the based ones
PKK are the freedom fighters over there. The actual party in turkey aren’t commies.
Or at least, that's how US media portrays them
Iraqi kurds are the best change my mind <:GWcorbinTopKek:384871333705678868>
I’m surprised an american even knows about kurds @Legiondude
we use them to made cheese
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OH CURDS
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@MountainMan Some of MSM talks about it, but they rarely distinguish between any of the Kurds and just blanket statement that we help the Kurds fight ISIS therefore all Kurds are good
I bounce through alot of media sources throughout the day, so it's a bit more expanded than the typical American
Ah okay
Yeah I cant really say every kurd is great. We’ve a lot of commies. Most of them havent learnt of the past mistakes.
Reminder of red kurdistan
And they havent seen the wonders of capitalism lul so they don’t know any better.
Thats Why the Iraqi kurds and Irani kurds arent commies as often as the Turkish and Syrian kurds.
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I remember hearing a YPG American national say in a video somewhere on Youtube that Democratic Confederalism (the socialist political ideology of the YPG) is the best hope for the Kurds in Syria and for peaceful people in the middle east. Even as an anti-socialist I can't say he doesn't have a point, and he may even be right.
At least it will let them establish SOME sort of state, which then might collapse and allow for a stable one to take its place
Honestly I know how it sounds, but I think it isn't unreasonable to say that if the YPG could actually establish any sort of state in Rojava, that they would progressively democratize. But then, that only remains reasonable if they don't stay steeped in terrorism and war, or otherwise have someone like Assad, Erdogan, or Putin who want to interfere with the region.
Really my point is that regardless of what other people would want to do to them, I have faith in the Kurdish people.
You have a point. An outside threat would probably make it work
For a while at least lol
The reason I grant credence to the idea that a more authority or centralized style of government would work is because of the instability of the region. An overly democratic society could very well result in another Iran, where the fluidity of a less order based style of government allowed for the Islamic radicals to easily regain control.
Point being the response to corrupt authority is noble authority.
Yeah there was an argument about Saddam and Qaddafi being assholes that kept the smaller assholes in line
The typical libertarian aversion to a centralized style of government is summarized in the argument that the government should not have powers one would not want to fall into the wrong hands. However the possession of such power is in a sense the fundamental definition of a government in any case. Here, a centralized government sounds terrifying considering the Islamists could potentially take control of it. However, my belief is that it's probably more reasonable in this case to think that a strict method of rule would do better to keep them out than a lax one. Keeping them out, as well as other corrupt influencers, is primary to establishing stability.
Liberty only works with a European cultural background