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Canada is too French

with the USA we got a balance almost right

I'm gunna run with these are our children narrative

the USA is a Chad son

Canada is the beta second son

India is the rebelious daughter

2018-02-04 16:44:27 UTC

ยฏ\_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

2018-02-05 01:27:24 UTC

also

2018-02-05 04:36:23 UTC

<:think_woke:378717098681171988>

2018-02-05 13:05:18 UTC

*plotted*

2018-02-05 13:05:45 UTC

Ultimately, he hasn't done anything yet.

2018-02-05 13:07:06 UTC

Though, we know full well this is going to be taken up and just run with.

2018-02-05 13:07:30 UTC

Anything they can find to say it's the right wingers being radical terrorists, not the muslims.

mate, I spend my time organising meals from homeless people and poorer familes

but not machetes...

2018-02-05 13:09:44 UTC

That's because you're british, not australian

2018-02-05 13:09:55 UTC

If you were australian, a machete would be a butter knife to you.

be have some big knives

but they are for cutting food

2018-02-05 13:11:53 UTC

In either case though, at least as far as I'm aware, conspiracy isn't a crime. If his possessing of a machete or other materials is illegal, then that's reason to lock him up, but ultimately the plotting isn't a crime commited yet.

We also have many gas canisters that could be used as explosives. They power the oven...

2018-02-05 13:12:34 UTC

I'm just annoyed because we both know a few major outlets that are going to say "we have this one case therefore this is true"

2018-02-05 13:12:53 UTC

And until they're assembled into a bomb, having them is fine

2018-02-05 13:13:12 UTC

when they are assembled into an explosive device, one that can be triggered instead of just being the materials, then it's a problem

He wasn't planning anything nice

so he need to get fucked

2018-02-05 13:13:40 UTC

I know he wasn't, and terrorists don't either. But until they've broken the law, we can't arrest them.

So you think he's a fantasist?

That he's actually too dumb to actually buy a machete?

2018-02-05 13:23:44 UTC

I never said that.

2018-02-05 13:23:54 UTC

I just said he hasn't broken the law yet, to my knowledge.

2018-02-05 13:24:28 UTC

I also said this earlier:
"If his possessing of a machete or other materials is illegal, then that's reason to lock him up, but ultimately the plotting isn't a crime commited yet."

2018-02-05 13:24:38 UTC

If he has the machete, and that's illegal, then arrest him for that

2018-02-05 13:24:51 UTC

but he can't be arrested for the plotting because conspiracy to commit *isn't* a crime

So you think he's a fantasist?

2018-02-05 13:27:35 UTC

Explain to me what a fantasist is

He dresses up in a fur suit and thinks he's a fox?

2018-02-05 13:27:59 UTC

Okay, so you're not actually trying to argue with me

2018-02-05 13:28:01 UTC

Gotcha

2018-02-05 13:31:28 UTC

Okay, well I already pointed out I never said I thought he was one of those.

2018-02-05 13:31:37 UTC

My entire stance is if he hasn't broken the law yet, he can't be arrested.

2018-02-05 13:32:17 UTC

And I disagree entirely with conspiracy to commit ever being a crime, because the standard of evidence is going to see a steady decline as time goes by.

so I can plot to murder you and that's ok

what level of planning I'm I allowed before it's a crime?

obviously I know very little about you

2018-02-05 13:35:15 UTC

You have to actually commit a crime before you can be arrested. Extensive planning is reason to surveil, but not a crime committed yet.

2018-02-05 13:35:27 UTC

And plotting to murder me would be fine so long as you never actually do it.

2018-02-05 13:36:08 UTC

If you're going to arrest someone who's plotting a crime, it has to be for possession of things that are illegal to have.

well I would break many laws before actually being able to do it

2018-02-05 13:36:26 UTC

Yeah, if you break other laws, you get arrested for that.

2018-02-05 13:36:33 UTC

But the conspiracy to commit isn't an actual crime.

but this guy is just talking about getting a big knife and running into a room of people cus they are gay

2018-02-05 13:37:03 UTC

And if having the knife is illegal, arrest him. If it isn't, then you can't arrest him until he does something illegal.

so does the venue have a bouncer with a gun?

2018-02-05 13:38:00 UTC

You're the one who lives in the UK, you tell me what the concealed carry laws are like.

You probably have to work for MI5

2018-02-05 13:40:14 UTC

So probably not, then. There's an argument you can use for loosening of gun restrictions then.

2018-02-05 13:41:56 UTC

Ultimately my issue with conspiracy to commit being a crime is if you're seriously planning it, you've undertaken actions which *are* against the law

2018-02-05 13:42:32 UTC

so making the planning a crime is both
A: Just a way of putting them in for longer.
B: Going to see a lowering standard of evidence until the police just become mind-readers, like is the case with hate speech.

My isssue is that if this guy runs into a GayBar with a machete. The best defensive weapon anyone could have would be a Chair

2018-02-05 13:43:48 UTC

Isn't having a machete in the gaybar a crime already?

2018-02-05 13:44:08 UTC

before he even hits anyone, isn't that both disturbing the peace and intimidation

2018-02-05 13:44:50 UTC

Lke I said, it's reason to surveil. If the police are confident he's going to do it, they can dispatch a few officers there in advance of him arriving.

I call police on my iPhone

Police take 30mins to arrive

Police don't have guns, they have batons

<:what:382980756139409409>

2018-02-05 13:47:42 UTC

" in advance of him arriving."

2018-02-05 13:47:49 UTC

if they found he's plotting

2018-02-05 13:47:52 UTC

they surveilled

2018-02-05 13:47:55 UTC

they think he's going to do it

2018-02-05 13:48:00 UTC

they send a couple officers

2018-02-05 13:48:05 UTC

the officers are *already there*

but you also cannot follow him around 24/7

2018-02-05 13:48:30 UTC

ask the NSA

2018-02-05 13:49:04 UTC

In either case, you still can't arrest someone until they *break the law*

2018-02-05 13:49:31 UTC

Because once you say "There are circumstances under which we will arrest someone before they've broken the law"

2018-02-05 13:49:43 UTC

Those circumstances just start applying to more and more situations as time goes on

2018-02-05 13:50:48 UTC

what's that picture from actually?

the Article that you didn't read

2018-02-05 13:51:11 UTC

I did read it, I just didn't see that picture in there

2018-02-05 13:51:57 UTC

Yes, he had a swastika hanging up in his house and bought a new nazi armband after the police confiscated his.

2018-02-05 13:52:17 UTC

He also said he's a fantasist, but I asked you what the hell that is because I genuinely have never heard that word before.

2018-02-05 13:52:58 UTC

okay now I see the picture. I mostly skipped over the pictures and tuned out a bit when he was trying to argue he'd been brainwashed

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