*plotted*

Ultimately, he hasn't done anything yet.

Though, we know full well this is going to be taken up and just run with.

Anything they can find to say it's the right wingers being radical terrorists, not the muslims.

mate, I spend my time organising meals from homeless people and poorer familes

it involves knives

but not machetes...

That's because you're british, not australian

If you were australian, a machete would be a butter knife to you.

be have some big knives

but they are for cutting food

In either case though, at least as far as I'm aware, conspiracy isn't a crime. If his possessing of a machete or other materials is illegal, then that's reason to lock him up, but ultimately the plotting isn't a crime commited yet.

We also have many gas canisters that could be used as explosives. They power the oven...

I'm just annoyed because we both know a few major outlets that are going to say "we have this one case therefore this is true"

And until they're assembled into a bomb, having them is fine

when they are assembled into an explosive device, one that can be triggered instead of just being the materials, then it's a problem

He wasn't planning anything nice

so he need to get fucked

I know he wasn't, and terrorists don't either. But until they've broken the law, we can't arrest them.

So you think he's a fantasist?

That he's actually too dumb to actually buy a machete?

I never said that.

I just said he hasn't broken the law yet, to my knowledge.

I also said this earlier:
"If his possessing of a machete or other materials is illegal, then that's reason to lock him up, but ultimately the plotting isn't a crime commited yet."

If he has the machete, and that's illegal, then arrest him for that

but he can't be arrested for the plotting because conspiracy to commit *isn't* a crime

So you think he's a fantasist?

Explain to me what a fantasist is

He dresses up in a fur suit and thinks he's a fox?

Okay, so you're not actually trying to argue with me

Gotcha

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/fantasist

Okay, well I already pointed out I never said I thought he was one of those.

My entire stance is if he hasn't broken the law yet, he can't be arrested.

And I disagree entirely with conspiracy to commit ever being a crime, because the standard of evidence is going to see a steady decline as time goes by.

so I can plot to murder you and that's ok

what level of planning I'm I allowed before it's a crime?

obviously I know very little about you

You have to actually commit a crime before you can be arrested. Extensive planning is reason to surveil, but not a crime committed yet.

And plotting to murder me would be fine so long as you never actually do it.

If you're going to arrest someone who's plotting a crime, it has to be for possession of things that are illegal to have.