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Franti you are on 24/7 bf duty

Now MAN UP

It's like they don't even really pay attention to what the statement is

I'VE BEEN RAPED THEREFORE RAPE CULTURE EXISTS

*throooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnkkkkkkk*

I have been trolled before so troll culture exists.

o shit

someone get on that

like punch people in the face if you think they're a troll n' shit

Please do not make fun of my trolling culture, it is a valuable part of my digital native identity and would appreciate if you would not try to appropriate it.

what is rape culture even supposed to be?

are people insinuating that men are engaged in a secret council of rape?

or that they think rape is acceptable?

is that what it is? They are accusing all men of thinking rape is acceptable?

It's the idea that it's easier to accuse an ambiguous thing of being a rapist than it is a person

In some societies, or people who live in certain groups you could say to your friends the following: "Heh i got that girl drunk and pounded her ass good!" and everyone would laugh and give high-fives.

This would be am example of rape culture.

Culture cannot defend itself and most people will not do so. It's the equivalent of a sex predator going after a quadrapalegic

sounds like a dumb joke

The only funny part is that people take it seriously

Could be it is a joke, but it is not always a joke and people feel comfortable with literal rapes. This is the problem with it. Jokes DO matter on some level since some people take them seriously.

The idiots who go "waagh why you advocate rape!" and people who go "Whoo lemma do that too"!

There should be license for having access to jokes and humor.

I don't think I'd particularly be alright with someone joking about raping a specific person, but I think slinging around ambiguous rape jokes is funny

I mean that the funny thing is that people are both gullible enough to believe such an idea presented by the people who advocate for it (insane leftists) and unintelligent enough to examine the concept in any critical fashion.

I wouldn't say it's a friggin culture though, I'd be like "dude wtf" at the person that said it

I.E., rape culture and the people who ardently support it are a joke

@Angus Ah, but why involve the concept of the individual and individual responsibility when you can blame society as a whole?

or just blame the other gender

It is not as great of a problem than some people make out of it. But some cultures truly accept rape more than others so it will NOT be going away anytime soon.

it's terrible that my view of large cities is that I shouldn't go to them, and if I do I should just avoid women at all costs since glancing at one could make me a rapist in the future

wtf is wrong with the world

time for a repost

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6dv6G1FWxk

love how arrogant she was

@Omsomething Well sadly the idea is made by western leftists and used mostly in regards to western society as a cudgel to force people and institutions to change to be more hospitable to leftists and leftism, not in less industrialized societies where the concept might actually be used to combat rape somehow.

then started crying when she realised she had been played

because she legit believed Steve didn't know who Kavanaugh was

@Angus From a risk assessment point of view, that is the logical response.

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just thank god rural areas are still normal

Could be i am naïve but there is reasons for talk about rape culture but it would need to be had by older professionals who put their faces and names on panels and face true discussion rather than some advocacy groups shouting at people or pressuring action based on feelings.

You can't rely on people from the cities not trying to escape the shitholes they made and bringing their madness with them, though.

I mean as i understand US students are not most... well, they have all kind of fancy ideas, rites, actions and other stupid shit.

@Omsomething Older professionals are the kind of people who propagate ideas like this in the first place. It's purely academic sophistry taken from the classroom and applied onto society as if the concepts were proven already.

Leftists have to be removed from their positions in academia so they cannot spread this cancer any more.

No no personally i think most of the older professionals are VERY collected and can see things from varying points of view. They just are jaded about how society and politics are changed.

Direct actions, causing a fuzz and youth doing thing X are the things which get past the media tresholds.

It is less about the players and more about the game.

I just wanted you to be notified @franti

I’ll document everything he says to me to you

Why do you think he cares?

That’s what friends are for

@Deleted User why do you even argue with fitzy?

oh my god watching change my mind is usually painful

but I think that it's kind of important to watch long form discussions

@Omsomething Yes, the insane public stunts we see are mostly composed of younger people, but these people are students of the older professionals you are talking about. Anyone can convince impressionable youth of the righteousness of their cause, but most are not this destructive and willing to use others as weapons to carry out their ideas of societal change.

he is a lolbeterian

KEK

its not fitzy

its fireweaver

"A devil's triangle refers to rape" what, it's just a MFM, rape implies rape, a sexual position never implies rape on its own

wtf

damn these people

Societies change, it might be guided a bit to some directions. Problem i think is that a lot of times diffences of opinion are stated to be due to ignorance and hate. Problem is a some of it truly IS, i have met some people who are truly racists who have NO idea how evolution even works.

> lolbertarian

kek

@Omsomething Ok, but losing your shit in public and being generally antisocial/confrontational is not the way towards societal change that lasts any length of time. You might be able to bully or cow people into acting or speaking a certain way as long as you have the power to do so, but the second you don't have that power all of the repressed emotions and behaviors will come back at once. Plus it makes people mad and defensive to call them bigots or racists and does nothing to convince them of the inherent illogical nature of their positions.

I guess my issue is more with the methods than the goals. Making every societal issue into a public confrontation at all times does nothing to create willingness to compromise on deeply held principles or work together to find mutually beneficial solutions to problems. It just makes more fighting about the existing issues

But muh revolution

I am not sure about that, people can be made compliant with pressures like that. If people are made afraid to speak against things they slowly see others speak of it in good terms and they slowly perpetuate it again and again and they slowly come to accept it as a fact.

The same thing i assume worked in middle ages to keep everyone in check in the Catholic doctrine. Untill Protestants called them out for their bullshit, and that was dangerous thing to do and caused a massive stir.

Compromising is not something extremists do, and it is not their work either, they push and push so the "moderates" can be reasonable and push the reforms in the "center".

Fear as a method of societal control works, sure. But only so long

If i would say i want to ban everyone on this chat, and it was getting traction most people might agree that only banning @banestrum is moderate position.

That's a fallacious position

Ahh, but a reactionary position would be to do the opposite

And actually unban people

It's not a position anyone would or should take because it makes no sense.

Personally, i am not sure a lot of extremists on any discussion truly aim to make sense.

Precisely, they aim to win.

"I can jog anywhere I want at night and feel safe"

criminals don't care about how you *feel*, broski

It's instictual mob tactics

They want everyone to agree with them, regardless of if that means silencing disagreement or killing those who disagree

People like that must be removed from positions of power if society is to have any hope of functioning properly

I'd advocate removing them from society or existence entirely, but I wouldn't force people to accept that position.

It seems like extreme leftism and Antifa methodology are an emergent phenomenon from groups with a majority of emotion-heavy reasoning

emotion vs rationality

Silencing opposition is still silencing opposition, regardless of the views of each side

It is something people do when they feel they are pushed, or they feel entitled. Those people are on all sides of discussions too, fear is often used as a tool of politics.

@Fitzydog It's them coming to accept that they cannot convince or intimidate everyone through subtle means.

all people are emotionial. some a bit more than others

@banestrum I don't think it's even THAT deep. We're dealing with a formless monster here

a formless monster ??

It's like the inverse of 'Wisdom of the Masses'

@Omsomething Yes, and for the good of everyone who isn't a cluster B malcontent or some other form of mental defective they should not be allowed to occupy positions of influence in society, as they will invariably abuse the power of those positions to further personal goals or for other selfish reasons at the expense of society as a whole.

@Fitzydog The formless monster lives in academia and has tenure.

They know how to point it in the right direction, sure

Maybe, but it also gets tiring i am sure. If you have had the SAME DISCUSSION with 1000 people about things which is to you absolutely simple and true it WILL make sense to tell people to get fucked.

And a lot of times when people are silenced it is not really something done consciously. They have bad routes of normal action.

Yes but doing that is counterproductive and if you hope to make lasting changes by being seen as a reasonable and levelheaded person you will not go and get emotional and yell at people for disagreeing

Lets say a child who has always gotten their way by starting to sob and cry, it has ALWAYS WORKED. Why would they not keep carrying on with it since it works?

It's just against your best interests on every level and serves no purpose other than to make you less convincing

@Omsomething Yes but children eventually are conditioned to not do that because someone who does that is insufferable and would not function well in society, to say nothing of their mental state if they went through life like that.

I am not sure about it being counterproductive, to me it seems to be working that people are appealing to better nature and goodness of humanity to get their aims and get in positions of power while silencing those "others" who disagree as evil.

was geht

what did i miss

It's a positive feedback loop for those who do it as well

you guys do know that such a thinh as evil person for the sake of being evil exist. right... idc for oh circumstance.. or your definition of bad and good or saying objective manner there is no evil... sociopathics control freaks arent evil but when they are sadistic they will get high positions

Unfortunately we are dealing with overgrown children who possess significant power and influence and calmly explaining why what they are doing is wrong does not yield results fast enough to undo the damage they are doing to social cohesion

@ITS HE-MA'AM Yeah, but the stupid masses aren't evil

Personally i do not believe there is evil people, just people consider bad things to be good.

This is demonstrably incorrect unless you think evil does not include people who believe they are good

Semantics

well the stupid masses onky care about themselves... not enough care for others

you think a cartel member thinks he is a good boi

But it doesn't really matter if they are evil or not since they bottom line is that they are destructive to human society.

@ITS HE-MA'AM Like I've said, I think you're giving the larger group too much sovereignty and credit

watch interview with the iceman. some people realize they are evil. as in lets torture this cat..

Not really, person who wants to slice me up to save me from the satan has "logical" thought patterns. If you just call him evil you do not understand or care why he is wrong and how he could be, eventually, fixed.

Nothing comes above ensuring the security and survival of the species, least of all one person's beliefs about others. Square pegs need to be beaten into their round holes.

@Omsomething That's sort of my point.

I don't really care about the internal workings of each leftist's brain and why they think what/how they do, I care about how to get them to stop what they are doing.

@Fitzydog well that is in what power they have over their own behavior.. who doesnt think about free will being an illusion to influence. doesnt hold much info on how to improve

@banestrum Same thing.

Eh, some people call me leftist while others call me a nazi.. Left/Right divide might be more arbitary than a lot of people make it out to be.

If relating to them on an emotional level works and lets me come to an understanding then fine, but I have seen little evidence that leftists are willing to compromise on their beliefs to any meaningful degree and also care more about the appearances of their proposed solutions than the actual effects.

@Omsomething I have no idea what you are and have no intention to pigeonhole you into a label

I can only hope you'll give me the same deference.

@banestrum a cartel member simply wouldn't care... but i get your point... some cant be fixed this is not fairyland. behavior is to a certain degree to environment. and when its fixed iit becomes hardwired

I do with way leftist the same as i do with way rightist. Talk with them and go downwards to their logical foundations and then have a fun conversation. Personally, i think world does need leftist people as much as those on the right.

I will not pigeonhole you unless it is for the fun of it. It is rather interesting to see how many of such holes most people can be showed.

world needs balance.. cant have utopia.. cant have good without the bad. cant have happiness without the sadness. simple harmony

south america is a bit on the bad side

europe is a bit on the good side.

if you dont count the recent unrests

Eh maybe, personally i think people think things in duality too much. It is one of the thinking patterns we have. It is rooted in neurology too, simple "on/off" switch.

@Omsomething I try to be reasonable and polite with leftists whenever I can so as to not give them ammunition to use against nonaligned people opposing them and to not feed their fantastical worldview.

its natural.. cause and effect. nothing is without cause

We can look at the places that are "bad" and determine what structures are in place that make them bad. Hint: leftist policies make places "bad".

cause and effect

Eh "natural" is such a bad thing to say about anything.

But having to toe an extremely thing line between autistically clarifying every point and making sure to not say something even vaguely displeasing to them makes it nigh on impossible to have something resembling a real conversation with many of them.

cause and effect is appropriate to say cause it holds true. simple natural when you kick a ball the ball rolls unless the ball is glued

This is true, there needs to be goodwill in ANY discussion.

It's worse than talking to a brick wall, since at least a brick wall won't change it's shape, size, and color to be the opposite of whatever you propose.

No one likes to be wrong, i might have been guilty of that too sometimes.

I wonder if that last kid will actually send suggestions on how to have a discussion his idea of properly

i hope im wrong about the future

Which leftists are all too willing to do now in regards to anything they see as being even vaguely associated with Trump. I could legitimately tell them that Trump wants to fund Planned Parenthood for 100 years and they would lose their shit and demand that the money not be accepted.

i hope i will be proving wrong. cause if im right it aint looking very positive

@ITS HE-MA'AM I do too, but it increasingly looks like a confrontation between the left and right is inevitable.

I'm waiting for the absolute shitstorm that is bound to happen today when lefties get a text message from Trump

Finding you are wrong is good, but when you have long discussion and get fortified your position your meat//lizard brain can make a fool out of you. It is something to work against.

But anyway i need to go to sauna be back later.

also the migrant and incel problem fueling competition... gender imbalance its not only ideologies at stake

Or more accurately, between the left and those that oppose them, the right and the left, and the government and the most violent ones from both sides.

Incels are a meme invented by leftists

Like Russian bots, Gamergate conspiracy theories, and other strawmen that are used to explain away their failures

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incels do exist. they are very desperate and lonely. and often when a group gets oppressed long enough like the helots and spartans you get fire

and yes they are losers

incels need to work on improving themselves physically and mentally

and recognize that it can take years to repair yourself

I know they exist, but they're not an issue of any significance even close to the amount they are discussed.

or financially

first thing is to stop watching porn

hue

masturbate once a week

is that a thing?

instead of everyday

It would be like complaining about eunuchs in ancient china if they didn't hold control over government.

watching other people have sex isnt what our ancestors considered a hobby

I guess it makes you think that you'll only be getting satisfaction if you actually go out and seek a relationship

lots of noncelibates watch porn

degenerates

The next step is to accept that you don't need a relationship to validate your own existence

quick fixes will only fck you up

some people watch porn with their spouse

and then fuccccc

Well, a sexual or romantic relationship, social relationships are pretty much necessary.

ask Shoe "and I suck his peen while he watches it!" 0nhead

Isn't that the logic behind much of feminism? Women don't need relationships with men to validate their existence?

you DO need to breed to validate your existence

You need to do that to perpetuate your existence

you dont need any of that... to validate your existence ....

newton is invalid... americunt logic

As a species we are lucky enough to have a massive population so that not everyone has to produce children to ensure social or even human survival.

all you technically need to continue living is air, water, food, and sleep.
Aside from that, the next tier of needs is clothing, shelter, and sex

Wrong

then there's social, safety, mental, and self actualization needs

next is social contact

then after comes sex

You can really get by on just the first three if you apply some creative medication

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no the nazis proved that you can't go without sleep forever

and a goal in life that will giveyou fulfilment

it takes less time than starving I believe

medititation works wonders

I suppose I'm just being a devil's advocate for forced evolution.

sleep isnt on maslow's heirarchy, you get it if you have immediate safety and/or shelter

I used to mock meditation but it makes sense if you view the body as a machine

i wish i could clear my mind

mind and body is connected if you fat fkg slob of course yoi will be depressed cause you poison yourself

Even the best designed engine cannot run 24/7 without outside assistance. eventually it will overheat or wear out from stress.

humans are like machines

Basic Needs (Literally needed), Air, Water, Food, Sleep
Technical Needs, Clothing, not technically needed, Shelter, not technically needed, Sex, Is needed for race but not individual
Safety Needs, Personal Security, Emotional Security, Financial Security, Health and Well Being
Social Belonging, Friendship, Intimacy, Family
Esteem, Recognition, Status, Outside Respect
Self Actualization, Creative Output, Achievement of Perceived Potential, Making Own Decisions

not necessarily in order

of actual importance

social need is actually important if you become a hermit yoi will get batshit crazy

humans arent made for isolation

a lot of people will put making their own decisions ahead of *most* of the above

I'm trying to make a simulator that can figure out relations between these needs

Unfortunately we are not perfect in decisionmaking or form.

just dont everything is related

We should always strive to be closer to perfection in every conceivable fashion.

yeah

We don't need to be perfect in our decisions, we just need the freedom to make the decisions for ourselves.

that's a thing though, you should always be working toward perfection, but never dwell on the fact that it's unachievable, or on how much farther you have to go to each milestone

when you ostracise people and they aint a bitch they will be dangerous

if they are a bitch they might kill themselves

just work on a goal that truly means something for you...

@Angus Being aware of the impossibility of the task being completed within one lifetime should help motivate people to ensure their descendants both exist and are able to move forward with that goal.

yeah

dont have to be their children it could be co writers etc

they could have someone to go on with that legacy

my father made sure I was going to be able to go into the world farther along than he started

But I'm a sucker for doomed efforts and heavily romanticize the concept of futile struggle, so I may be biased.

@Angus Exactly, that's the base level and should be the building blocks of a person giving a shit about themselves AND others.

i never understand why some thinks it cool to not give a shit

I've gone through a lot of those phases

I can understand apathy or unawareness of others, but for an otherwise intelligent person to willfully ignore the consequences of their actions is greatly displeasing to me.

and I think the reason some people get stuck in them is because they weren't taught to always try and better themselves, and to always look at several sources on a broad spectrum of topics before you believe anything too serious

They're like 50% of the way to being a near-ideal human and fucked it up on the easiest bit.

there's also being uneducated, which both should not be used or taken as an insult

you can learn a lot from monks

it's something anyone needs to recognize about themself and just try to fix

Quick pleasure is short lived. next day you land with the problem

brb

lacking in information... people arent really stupid but most lack information i would say

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This a furry server now

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