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@Deleted User Have you done any serious shooting with the c96?

Glad to see the stock

Ah, you get what you can

I don't even know if the stocks are matched to guns

Is that a P17 above it?

Ooh, even better

Wow.

Lucky boyyyy

Eh

As long as it works

Ah, just collecting them?

Mmmm swashtickers

Yeah, some are just too nice to use

Thank god for Privi Partisan

Yeah, they work it way too hard

You can open up the gas system though.

Huh

What do you reload it to for the garand, WWII spec?

Does it feel right?

I heard somewhere that you can open up the gas system on the Garand using some aftermarket parts and run modern ammo fine

That has the good shit

M2 ball is fucking weird

Yeah, it's weird on the level that it was designed to be ballistically inefficient, to a degree.

They mention it at 2:09 in the vid

Bureaucracy and all that

No worries, just want you to have all the options

Yeah, they're an odd round

I'm not too sure how I feel about composite rounds like that

You mean for civilain use?

Well all that means is that it's a limited commodity

I'm sure you could make your own if you could figure out the components

And had access to advanced metallurgical facilities

Too expensive?

Yeah, that's a lot of work for handloading

Nah, live in New England

Prohibitively expensive and don't want the harrassment from neighbors and government

Especially since the state DA is "reinterpreting" current legislation as she sees fit

I live through others, it's fine

You might be able to make 7.62 CETME if you wanted to do oddball rounds

Solid aluminum with a partial copper jacket

What do you shoot the .44 out of?

ooh

I'm sure people move a lane over once you fire it a few times

It's too old-school for anyone to really complain about it

Also too cool

Some day somebody's going to make some sort of advance that makes them better then automatics again

That'll be a fun day

Wow.

Never heard of that happening before

Oh, that's not so bad

I figured the cylinder fell out or something

You must shoot it a lot

Weird

I saw an enfield bolt fly out once, been a little nervous about malfunctions/failures since

huh

Misaligned primers or something?

That's concerning.

Does the brass deform visibly or is it some nebulous unsolvable issue?

Well short of beating them into the cylinder there's probably not much you can do on the range

.agree

Who would have guessed?

2018-03-22 02:30:18 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I don't love identity politics

2018-03-22 02:30:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I think it's a potent weapon that I can't afford to not take advantage of, especially considering the high stakes

2018-03-22 02:31:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It doesn't need to be identity politics in the sense I think you see it in

2018-03-22 02:31:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It doesn't need to be a divisive form of identity politics, in fact it's purpose is to bring many peoples together under one banner

2018-03-22 02:32:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Let's use Rome as an example

2018-03-22 02:32:46 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They were pretty nationalistic but integrated other tribes into their system through subsuming them into the national identity

2018-03-22 02:33:39 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Some groups became noteworthy for their skill in particular forms of combat, some became model citizens who adapted quickly to the Roman way of life, etc

2018-03-22 02:33:56 UTC [Sparta #general]  

People kept as much of their smaller group identity as was useful to society

2018-03-22 02:34:05 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User Yeah, and some calvalry

2018-03-22 02:34:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User Yes, but not because conformity is easy, but because it is mutually beneficial

2018-03-22 02:34:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Not total conformity, but enough that you and some totally different people can work together

2018-03-22 02:36:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

If Roman armies, with all their auxilaries, irregular troops, standardized equipment, and multinational manpower don't represent one of the greatest achievements of nationalism to you, then I don't know what to say.

2018-03-22 02:37:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User Globalism is economic colonization and mutual wage slavery on an unprecedented scale, and all parties are worse for it. No nation is self sufficient, all are exploited, and national pride in unique products and labors is reduced to gross GDP

2018-03-22 02:38:56 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Rome had the right idea, beat people until they comply, and then show them how nice you live.

2018-03-22 02:39:05 UTC [Sparta #general]  

We don't do enough of either now

2018-03-22 02:39:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@zahlman I mean, it's a big deal in some shitholes, but it's still a shithole, just marginally wealthier

2018-03-22 02:39:46 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Itchy

2018-03-22 02:39:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Bangladesh can suck a dick

2018-03-22 02:40:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Fuck the tags they put on their shirts, they are the actual worst

2018-03-22 02:40:31 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The plastic stickers that are ironed on or something, you have to peel them off a letter at a time

2018-03-22 02:40:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User They have to be, to compete

2018-03-22 02:41:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Plenty of cheap stuff, so no room there

2018-03-22 02:42:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I learned today that japan makes really good jeans because they bought up all the machinery in the states when it went under due to outsourcing

2018-03-22 02:42:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

So they basically make american jeans

2018-03-22 02:43:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I thought that was just the pipes in rome

2018-03-22 02:44:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@zahlman We can all see that globalism has purported to bring the world closer, but has eroded what binds nations together

2018-03-22 02:44:32 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User I think it's a lot of export, so some must be made for us amerifats

2018-03-22 02:45:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User It's a net economic gain for the world, but those benefits mostly go into the pockets of multinational corporations and extremely wealthy individuals rather than to the societies that produced said goods

2018-03-22 02:46:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User I'd be a communist if people were entirely logical and not emotional at all

2018-03-22 02:46:15 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Too bad that's not reality

2018-03-22 02:46:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Thanks, Luigi

2018-03-22 02:46:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

With goatee?

2018-03-22 02:47:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

That's horrifying

2018-03-22 02:49:23 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Are you willing to listen to our explanations?

2018-03-22 02:51:16 UTC [Sparta #general]  

gimme a sec

2018-03-22 02:54:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

For me, "economic freedom" on a global scale means that all nations can trade with each other with little to no restrictions. This means that regional differences in prices are esentially meaningless in such a large market, and so nations are essentially locked in to producing whatever creates the greatest GDP. So a nation with lots of fertile land is going to produce cash crops to sell on the international market and use the profits to buy food from somewhere else. If a nation did anything less than maximize their GDP, they would be outcompeted by other nations in the market and subjugated by economic means

2018-03-22 02:55:28 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Essentially, nations are locked into producing certain things by the current prices of the market and general economic pressure

2018-03-22 02:56:40 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I get that the global economy produces the most economically efficient solutions on a global scale via market pressure, but it also creates extremely unbalanced systems that border on global monopolies

2018-03-22 02:58:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

At the end of this, every nation produces exactly one product to sell on the market, and essentially holds a gun to the head of the world. If Neo-USA stops producing the worlds supply of planes, nobody has planes, thusly everyone is enslaved to the USA. And everyone is enslaved to each other via resource production

2018-03-22 02:58:18 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@zahlman That's why I said "economically" efficient.

2018-03-22 02:58:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They're not resource efficient by any means

2018-03-22 02:59:09 UTC [Sparta #general]  

So I'm not denying the benefits of globalization, but there are downsides to it.

2018-03-22 03:05:08 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Ok, so that first one, everything they said was technically correct

2018-03-22 03:05:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

But costs ARE passed on to other nations via externalities

2018-03-22 03:06:18 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Could be environmental costs from production, health costs from pollution, whatever, because the global economy is global, the costs and benefits are going to be spread around

2018-03-22 03:06:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And obviously less powerful nations, economic or otherwise, have less means available to protect themselves from those negative consequences

2018-03-22 03:07:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Edgy_Username The anti-white crowd has been out in force on twitter

2018-03-22 03:07:42 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Bringing out the old "whites are domestic terrorists" thing again

2018-03-22 03:09:31 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Blame the leftists

2018-03-22 03:09:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

We just want to be white in peace

2018-03-22 03:11:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

At this point, I think universal sufferage is incompatible with America

2018-03-22 03:11:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It's not functioning so good with so many fucking voices voting in opposite directions

2018-03-22 03:13:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

How do you recommend we fix that then?

2018-03-22 03:14:05 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Whites are the majority of the population, so nothing's out of the ordinary there, statistically.

2018-03-22 03:16:50 UTC [Sparta #general]  

So, even that bottom graph says that islam did more than everyone else combined

2018-03-22 03:18:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Is this one of those graphs that conveniently starts after 9/11?

2018-03-22 03:22:13 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@DanielKO They've also included some oddball incidents as "far-right"

2018-03-22 03:22:30 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The "2003 Salinas, Calif. Abudction, Torture, and Murder" was two hispanics killing a bisexual

2018-03-22 03:22:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Dunno how that's similar to the actual skinheads they've cited selewhere

2018-03-22 03:23:18 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Yeah, it only took ONE incident to change that balance

2018-03-22 03:24:15 UTC [Sparta #general]  

ONE islamic terrorist killed 49 people in a single incident, but it took 14 years for "far right" "terrorism" to approach the same figure

2018-03-22 03:24:34 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And I'm supposed to consider Islamic terrorism LESS of a threat?

2018-03-22 03:24:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They've killed more people in less incidents

2018-03-22 03:25:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Underwear bomber

2018-03-22 03:25:08 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Not one to defend TSA, but still.

2018-03-22 03:25:33 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Their value is also mostly deterrence, rather than active prevention

2018-03-22 03:26:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Edgy_Username Exactly, am I supposed to consider a bunch on unrelated skinheads committing armed robbery a serious national threat?

2018-03-22 03:26:15 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User Who the fuck has the TSA ever killed?

2018-03-22 03:27:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User So the TSA should regulate motor transport now?

2018-03-22 03:28:30 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Sue✨ Yeah, it's such an outlier we fought a bunch of stupid wars over it, it was a pretty big deal. Over a thousand people died because we upset some rich saudi cunt with religious pull

2018-03-22 03:29:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

That's why people don't include 9/11 in these "far right attacks have killed more than islam" meme-tier infographs, because it makes the graph so damn big you can't even see the far right deaths

2018-03-22 03:29:50 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I do not trust airlines to handle my luggage, let alone my security

2018-03-22 03:30:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Sue✨ I'm pretty sure the "point" was to say that islam has somehow killed less

2018-03-22 03:31:24 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User I'd imagine so, but it's impossible to prove

2018-03-22 03:31:44 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Who knows how many insane persons have been deterred over the years by the simple idea that they'd get caught

2018-03-22 03:31:59 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Edgy_Username Yeah, you guys fucked it

2018-03-22 03:32:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Eliminate parliment now, start over

2018-03-22 03:33:17 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Look at that garbage, for instance

2018-03-22 03:33:30 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It ends with "Not a single death has resulted from terrorist activity by a Muslim extremist refugee."

2018-03-22 03:34:18 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Ah yes, not a single person known to be an enemy of the united states on religious grounds has been granted passage into the US and then carried out a lethal attack on american soil

2018-03-22 03:34:22 UTC [Sparta #general]  

What a surprise

2018-03-22 03:35:45 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Sue✨ My point is that all the articles of that nature are attempting to place the blame on "far right" terrorism while minimizing the number of people killed by islamists. They obfuscate, quibble over definitions, distort data, and manipulate statistics wherever possible and the BEST they can do is the first article posted

2018-03-22 03:37:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The one where excluding that ONE time islam killed 1k+ people in a day, it still killed more than "far right" (a very inclusive group apparently) did over 15 years

2018-03-22 03:37:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And they attempt to dress it up as "Far right extremists have committed more attacks". Great, they're not very good at killing people, so by your logic we shouldn't worry about them.

2018-03-22 03:37:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User The what now?

2018-03-22 03:38:13 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Yeah, it just amazes me that that one is the best of the bunch

2018-03-22 03:38:39 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The BEST one is "Islamists might kill more people, but far right groups attack more often"

2018-03-22 03:38:50 UTC [Sparta #general]  

With a bunch of asterisks at the end

2018-03-22 03:39:29 UTC [Sparta #general]  

*"Far right" includes hispanics and unaffiliated people who commit hate crimes

2018-03-22 03:39:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Only as much as everyone conspires with their own groups

2018-03-22 03:43:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Spencer has too much ego to be a real leader.

2018-03-22 03:43:09 UTC [Sparta #general]  

He's no hitler, that's for sure

2018-03-22 03:43:20 UTC [Sparta #general]  

There isn't one.

2018-03-22 03:43:48 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It's a bunch of groups with similar and overlapping ideas and interests working toward a nebulous common goal

2018-03-22 03:43:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

What?

2018-03-22 03:44:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

What century are you from?

2018-03-22 03:44:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

KKK hasn't been a serious threat since they were outcompeted by other organized crime

2018-03-22 03:44:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They're regional, at best, and also old as shit

2018-03-22 03:44:51 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Although David Duke is fucking JACKED

2018-03-22 03:45:09 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Your Klansman emote's hood fell off

2018-03-22 03:45:18 UTC [Sparta #general]  

^

2018-03-22 03:45:24 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Literally too old school

2018-03-22 03:46:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The number of people angry enough to drop everything and travel to Missouri to join the KKK in the hopes of lynching darkies is probably in the low hundreds

2018-03-22 03:47:20 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Everybody needs footsoldiers, and since few reasonable people are mad enough to risk life and limb, we get this

2018-03-22 03:47:29 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You take what you can get

2018-03-22 03:48:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I'd like to kick the Bantu out of SA and fix that place up

2018-03-22 03:48:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

But that's a pipe dream

2018-03-22 03:49:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

For now all I can do is my tiny part to try to fix the busted shit we have here

2018-03-22 03:50:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Here?

2018-03-22 03:50:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I'm not so egotistical to think that my vision for what I'd like as a government should in fact be the government

2018-03-22 03:51:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Unlike CERTAIN political parties

2018-03-22 03:51:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Benevolent dictatorship

2018-03-22 03:51:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Too bad that's a transient form of goernment

2018-03-22 03:52:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User Yeah, at this point helping white people see that they're being gaslighted into becoming self hating on a national scale is the biggest deal

2018-03-22 03:52:24 UTC [Sparta #general]  
2018-03-22 03:52:31 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Still a magic few hours

2018-03-22 03:52:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Post-Weimar but pre-WWII Germany

2018-03-22 03:53:23 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Before they overextended and tossed all their peacetime gains

2018-03-22 03:54:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User More like a country that was fucked in every concievable way that got its shit together in a decade

2018-03-22 03:54:28 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User You mean like a jew thing?

2018-03-22 03:55:13 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I guess market economics?

2018-03-22 03:55:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Can suppress innovation by removing innovation from necessity and suppressing innovation by competitors

2018-03-22 03:55:56 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Nobody controls all the institutions

2018-03-22 03:56:09 UTC [Sparta #general]  

The people who run them

2018-03-22 03:56:16 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They get to be cunts

2018-03-22 03:56:30 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Could be, could be Islam

2018-03-22 03:56:42 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I'm sure it depends on what institutions and where

2018-03-22 03:57:11 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Islamists would control institutions in Iran and Jews would control institutions in Israel

2018-03-22 03:57:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

^

2018-03-22 03:57:28 UTC [Sparta #general]  

There's nothing conspiratorial about that

2018-03-22 03:57:32 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Or outrageous

2018-03-22 03:57:47 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You seem to still be talking about jews

2018-03-22 03:58:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Socially inefficient outcomes

2018-03-22 03:59:09 UTC [Sparta #general]  

^

2018-03-22 04:00:19 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Of course, that's how it goes.

2018-03-22 04:00:28 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Nothing inherently morally wrong about that

2018-03-22 04:00:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Because they have more money

2018-03-22 04:01:13 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Why do islamists kill more Americans despite committing less attacks?

2018-03-22 04:01:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Copypasta?

2018-03-22 04:03:04 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User But they don't

2018-03-22 04:03:16 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They benefit the individual

2018-03-22 04:04:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And blacks, by percentage of population, commit the most violent crimes by far

2018-03-22 04:06:03 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User And it's in the self interest of those democrat ghetto owners to keep those ghettos poor, so they can forever dangle the prospect of economic improvement in front of their captive audience of voters

2018-03-22 04:06:14 UTC [Sparta #general]  

And yet that's not the socially optimal income

2018-03-22 04:07:35 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Societies create the most socially optimal outcomes when the structure of the society incentivizes or forces making socially optimal choices

2018-03-22 04:07:39 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I.E. rome

2018-03-22 04:07:47 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Behave or we crucify you

2018-03-22 04:07:54 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Yup

2018-03-22 04:08:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

That's my issue with Globalism

2018-03-22 04:09:15 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It thinks money is the be all and end all solution in ALL situations, which it is not

2018-03-22 04:09:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Increasing the income of a Somali dirt farmer does not magically make them not a dirt farmer, or their land not an inhospitable wasteland

2018-03-22 04:10:01 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It's fine

2018-03-22 04:10:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It should, like all things, be considered on a smaller scale than global

2018-03-22 04:10:38 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Otherwise all the talent and resources go to one place

2018-03-22 04:11:26 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It isn't a useful resource

2018-03-22 04:11:37 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It's meaningless outside of society

2018-03-22 04:12:20 UTC [Sparta #general]  

It cannot feed a person when markets have no food, it cannot house a person where there are no building materials to purchase.

2018-03-22 04:12:31 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I'm having fun though

2018-03-22 04:12:40 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Decent mirror for self examination

2018-03-22 04:14:06 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@DanielKO Gotta practice on something

2018-03-22 04:16:35 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User So are you a libertarian?

2018-03-22 04:17:02 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Grug use same youtube channel multiple times rather than finding most articulate video on particular topic

2018-03-22 04:18:17 UTC [Sparta #general]  

^

2018-03-22 04:18:46 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Even the people whose party has a fat man in his underwear dance around on stage recognize reality

2018-03-22 04:18:58 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Certainly not us

2018-03-22 04:25:25 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I think he is saying both those things

2018-03-22 04:37:49 UTC [Sparta #general]  

MAGIC MISSILE

2018-03-22 04:37:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  
2018-03-22 04:40:41 UTC [Sparta #general]  

They're always fun

2018-03-22 04:42:40 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You're not responsible for me, my actions are entirely done individually and have no bearing on the character of this server

2018-03-22 04:43:43 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Hey, hooty offered

2018-03-22 04:43:52 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I'm always up for reasonable debate

2018-03-22 04:44:33 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Well I'll do that in the future if someone ever mentions another discord on here

2018-03-22 04:45:20 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Let me one up you

2018-03-22 22:21:10 UTC [Sparta #general]  

You keep our piss in a folder?

2018-03-22 22:22:55 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Don't bring the piss folder over here!

2018-03-22 22:23:00 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I don't want that spilling on me

2018-03-24 00:05:27 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Fires are fine in the long term, unlpeasant in the short term, but always cool to look at

2018-03-24 00:06:29 UTC [Sparta #general]  

Well that shouldn't happen, I mean forest fires that don't kill people or destroy property

2018-03-24 00:07:48 UTC [Sparta #general]  

I mean properly managed forest fires are fine in the long term

2018-03-24 00:08:11 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@Deleted User Yeah, but forest fires are preventable as if you could drain the ocean a bit before a hurricane

2018-03-24 00:08:28 UTC [Sparta #general]  

@flyingfoxel I think it's mostly budget right now, but I'm not an expert

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