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2017-04-12 15:33:54 UTC

To balance things.

it could be a genuine position taken out of a reaction to a bad thing: hedonistic consumerism. The thing is, ascetic renunciation is also a bad thing.

A reason why metal sucks now is that artists step into the studio to "make metal" . More specifically, a type of metal. It's about the concept now rather than the sensation. Every new development prior was precipitated by the rejection of some earlier concept in favor of concrete sensations with little mind of what exactly to call it. The press and labels just sell the concept to people, it's almost always been this way. There are few if any musicians in metal interested purely in musical sensation, it's always a goal to work within some concept that already exists.

2017-04-12 16:21:07 UTC

the surface took over from the substance

2017-04-12 16:22:50 UTC
2017-04-12 16:23:16 UTC

and it's imitative instead of pioneering

That's because there is little substance left to be mined out of the ground that hasn't already been covered. At least in an economical sense.

2017-04-12 16:23:29 UTC

maybe

2017-04-12 16:23:38 UTC

i think there's plenty of ground left

2017-04-12 16:23:45 UTC

but it would require going into new topics

2017-04-12 16:23:49 UTC

keeping the metal outlook

2017-04-12 16:24:04 UTC

you're talking lyrics and themes right

I mean are there really any other "metal" sensations left that relate to the metal Outlook that haven't been covered

New topics won't help because those topics would be presented in a way that's already rounded out. So you'd just be shoving more instances into an essence that's tapped out

2017-04-12 16:29:11 UTC

i think so but i have no evidence either way

2017-04-12 16:30:14 UTC

@devolved HELLO

2017-04-12 16:31:00 UTC

@vigil#3835 METAL IS DALIT

2017-04-12 16:31:33 UTC

hiya

2017-04-12 16:31:36 UTC

@vigil#3835 AND SO ARE U BECAUSE UR TAG DOESN'T WORK

2017-04-12 16:32:36 UTC

@devolved WHAT DO YOU THINK OF JARED KUSHNER?

2017-04-12 16:32:45 UTC

IS HE GRIMA WORMTONGUE?

2017-04-12 16:33:15 UTC

IF SO, DOES HE HOLD ANY LESSONS ON WHAT SHOULD BE DONE TO JEWS IN RIGHT WING MOVEMENTS?

2017-04-12 16:33:29 UTC

WHAT ARE THOSE LESSONS?

2017-04-12 16:34:12 UTC

gasjews

2017-04-12 16:34:42 UTC

SEAN SPICER IS MORE LIT THAN IS BERT

2017-04-12 16:34:55 UTC

SEAN SPICER KNOWS HITLER DID NOT USE CHEMICAL WEAPONS

2017-04-12 16:35:02 UTC

BERT STEVENS PROMOTES THE HOLOCAUST

2017-04-12 16:42:02 UTC

<:yehuda:286647952569532417>

2017-04-12 17:03:02 UTC

FUTURE MEMBERS OF THIS CHAT

2017-04-12 17:03:20 UTC

THE REFUGEES

2017-04-12 17:03:24 UTC

NOT THE SCOUTS

2017-04-12 17:07:13 UTC

The priestly caste is the one which got deformed first

2017-04-12 17:07:33 UTC

Perhaps it is a historical force, a necessity of the positiion of one who is for prolonged time

2017-04-12 17:07:39 UTC

Separated from the plane of combat

2017-04-12 17:11:47 UTC

What concerns me most

2017-04-12 17:12:15 UTC

Are the recent calls for eugenical promotion of the purification of the "race"

2017-04-12 17:12:47 UTC

recent?

2017-04-12 17:13:15 UTC

I was at first completely on board, but later I noticed certain self-indulging patterns in this thought (moderns cannot take any concept without missinterpreting it to the extremes)

2017-04-12 17:13:21 UTC

Yes, I mean ressurgence of it

2017-04-12 17:14:24 UTC

Initially the idea of promoting eugenics in order to eliminate hereditary deformations and remove one important source of indulgence for all the charities, servile nuns, virtue signalers etc

2017-04-12 17:15:02 UTC

But then again, spiritual deformities of the principal protagonists started surfacing

2017-04-12 17:15:33 UTC

And in the whole idea, i started recognizing the good old Western pathologies

2017-04-12 17:15:37 UTC

Namely

2017-04-12 17:15:46 UTC

1. Western fascination with medicine

2017-04-12 17:16:33 UTC

2. Western fascinaiton with all aesthetical forms related to medicine and inspired by medical outlook, namely, sterile, clinical and formal

2017-04-12 17:16:50 UTC

3. Western fascination with the most material aspects of science

2017-04-12 17:17:16 UTC

4. Western conformity and desire to bring about an entirely conformist utopia

2017-04-12 17:18:30 UTC

5. And I must unfortunately add, Western sexual perversion and desire to bring about the wold of the most sexually desirable people possible

2017-04-12 17:19:30 UTC

With these things in mind, the Westerner does not want to promot eugenics as one among many other tools which could potentially remove certain trivialities

2017-04-12 17:19:51 UTC

But he sees eugenicism as an ideal, and promotion of it, as a core purpose of life, and a cornerstone of any future society

2017-04-12 17:19:58 UTC

therefore, at the center of the future society would lie

2017-04-12 17:20:08 UTC

an enormous burreaucratic apparatus of doctors

2017-04-12 17:20:21 UTC

to fulfill the western desire to be ruled by Doctors and medical workers

2017-04-12 17:20:38 UTC

Which would then systematically eliminate certain genetic strains

2017-04-12 17:20:47 UTC

According to sensibilities of fashon models and football players

2017-04-12 17:20:56 UTC

@The Enlightened Shepherd I agree, Lebensborns are the counterparts of LGBT, destroy the family, serve the collective

2017-04-12 17:21:20 UTC

So that the future race could be as sexually pleasing to the average football player and fashion model

2017-04-12 17:21:30 UTC

From which they presume, society would emerge "superior"

2017-04-12 17:21:50 UTC

Because they also presume, intelligence is directly measured by levels of conformity to the formal society and it's demands

2017-04-12 17:22:05 UTC

Hence, via marvelous eugenic efforts

2017-04-12 17:22:32 UTC

We would finnally usher in a new era, of dumb football playes and fashion models, all blonde, tall, with slender faces

2017-04-12 17:22:57 UTC

Who would all equally be perfectly in line with the arithmetically defined "standards" through which doctors would organize society

2017-04-12 17:23:19 UTC

And it isn't hard to predict the population would also be completely surgically removed from any higher tastes

2017-04-12 17:23:26 UTC

end bureaucracy

2017-04-12 17:23:28 UTC

As well as any measure of subtlety

2017-04-12 17:24:19 UTC

This would be the perfect race of the eugenicist future. A nation of the protagonists of Police Crime dramas, all sterile, all tasteless, all perfect, but also, all perfectly peasants

2017-04-12 17:25:16 UTC

why would they be peasants

2017-04-12 17:26:17 UTC

peasant is a derogatory term for people with provincial sensibilities, people lacking higher and refined tastes

2017-04-12 17:26:30 UTC

the less the person resembles an agricultural worker, the more powerful it is

2017-04-12 17:27:58 UTC

Peasant = "pleb"

2017-04-12 17:28:13 UTC

Which there is nothing wrong with.

2017-04-12 17:28:21 UTC

not exactly, there is an important difference

2017-04-12 17:28:34 UTC

Economic?

2017-04-12 17:29:02 UTC

why would they be unable to have higher sensibilities

2017-04-12 17:29:21 UTC

in theory that facility is mostly genetic itself

2017-04-12 17:31:48 UTC

How can anything which is concoted in an office have any measure of it ?

2017-04-12 17:31:54 UTC

peasants don't count

2017-04-12 17:31:56 UTC

that's the point

2017-04-12 17:32:36 UTC

You people forget that people exist within a society, and it's realities they assume as a part of their identity

2017-04-12 17:33:09 UTC

What kind of measure for anything subtle can have anybody who is born in a socitey of "perfectly measured" individuals

2017-04-12 17:33:16 UTC

Which absolutely implies people tailored to be the same

2017-04-12 17:33:48 UTC

Which then again implies, people who are slowly conforming to one and the same ideal, which simply has to be perverted

2017-04-12 17:33:53 UTC

On a long enough timeline

2017-04-12 17:34:03 UTC

As anything that gets formalized in a burreaucratic fashion does

2017-04-12 17:39:56 UTC

true

2017-04-12 17:40:10 UTC

so the problem is bureaucracy

2017-04-12 17:40:19 UTC

not eugenics

2017-04-12 17:42:07 UTC

vigil, with that nihilistic pettifogging you will not reach a much more sophisticated conclusion than "sodomize the weak"

2017-04-12 17:42:11 UTC

and though we use it as a joke

2017-04-12 17:42:18 UTC

REKT

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