since defending honor by definition means you are ready to assume death

Only one Nester

not to make a calculation whether defending honor is worthy the risk

sheeeit

this was nester's impostor

He was "Naster" and didn't have my avatar

nvm

intention to deceive was evident

where is profagonist

where is vry_o

where is spaceplacentra

They quit the server

why

They quit and come back.

They'll probably come back later.

They don't like it here too much.

wild is trying to recruit me

If you'd like me to relay any messages to them, profag and vryo and spaceplacenta, I can, @The Enlightened Shepherd

I have them in friends list

immortality is dalit

gil o teen you are typing sth for the last 20 minutes

@stankpüs#3835 don't need to go full single orthodox monotheism, just need to do something to prevent infighting. like, all share the same pantheon, all connected by blood, we can have different views but must no longer kill each other... only friendly competition. also i think more focus on a creator god of somekind that we can all tap into would make it more effective. from my small amount of research into paganism it seems like creation was just a random thing that happened and that the pantheon are separate from that.

are you writting a master thesis on growing organic tomatoes

yeah paganism is sort of a cosmogony

@The Enlightened Shepherd hah i need practice with statement confidence. especially since stopped drinking it's hard not to obsess and edit

i write with complete illiteracy here

and blame it on my crappy keyboard

yes i just have to plop it out and not think about it much but it's a challenge

or start drinking again

well paganist attitudes were generally this: we don't care what individuals believe, as long as they respect customs and sacred places/stuff.

That's amicable towards a community that isn't ripping itself apart

Paganism = We make sure that unwashed masses don't ruin everything they touch by providing them with formal requirements

Otherwise we don't care whether they come or go

yes but we need to compete with collectivist zealots

on a large scale

Lutheranism = If you teach a man to read, suddenly he will become versed in mysteries of the faith

i want to win not have some perfect libertarian utopia or nothing

just train your population in insurgent warfare and push out the fucking monotheists

when they come to your door

Assuming "thanks but no thanks" didn't work

you're not being realistic. we have to work within this jewish narrative whether we like it or not.

I don't know what you're on about

what you're talking about is only applicable to a tiny minority

win what

Against whom

christianity happened. it had a big influence on the west. have to work within that frame at least somewhat.

even if people aren't officially christians it still left a big mark on everyone

win = 14 words

I think you're going to see the hard atheists flock back to it but other people looking for renewed religiousity will probably not become Christian if for nothing else than the fact that they've longsince abandoned those values

i'm not that optimistic

yeah @Gil O'Teen

I respect that attitude

face it, the peak of the west was arguably a christian west

and the argument is mostly about LARPing

the christian west produced the greatest amount of great people

industrialization and modernity would not have been possible without that

that it cannibalizes itself is unfortunate, but not guaranteed

it's debatable how much christianity is responsible for our success, the argument that white people were good for christianity and not the other way around is just as valid. it doesn't matter though. i'm just trying to be pragmatic and think of what would be most effective. things can improve over time but we need speed right now.

it's probably already too late

but have to do something while we're here

I think it's credible it's both things

white people and Christianity

but yeah pragmatism

white people should be worried about how they motivate their people to breed

over a lot of other more trivial concerns

i am a baby making proselytizer haha

Christians make more babies, but that's dropping

don't need a religion for that. it's so natural.

well, you would think

but other religions produce more babies

and it's not simply the race thing

Mormons produce more too

it's just cuz they have a positive view of it

what's up

well yes, what do you mean it's kjust

it's an important thing man

i've found all people need is ONE person to give encouragement and they get on board right away.

whatever reason they have

it's good enough

no <@!301033797909217287>

cuz we all have the desire in us, we just never get any encouragement

what alternative encouragement could work, hypothetically

it seems to me to be very abnormal

that living beings start to think reproduction isn't important

You won't go broke having children would be sufficient

to the point where they are on the edge of a demographic shrinkage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OD04F2c6bec

You might have to convince a lot that demographic shrinkage should matter to them

Uphill fight there

if the West does not have the deliberately chosen high fertility of Christianity

it will have the chaotic fertility of the dregs of their race

i give a good example too myself with my family so maybe it's easier for me because of that

you get dysgenics

intelligent people dont have kids

dumb people have plenty

sometimes specifically so that they can support a certain lifestyle

@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ yeah, that's the problem and the question and the answer

motivation

it's already pretty out there

deserving explanation