christianity happened. it had a big influence on the west. have to work within that frame at least somewhat.

even if people aren't officially christians it still left a big mark on everyone

win = 14 words

I think you're going to see the hard atheists flock back to it but other people looking for renewed religiousity will probably not become Christian if for nothing else than the fact that they've longsince abandoned those values

i'm not that optimistic

yeah @Gil O'Teen

I respect that attitude

face it, the peak of the west was arguably a christian west

and the argument is mostly about LARPing

the christian west produced the greatest amount of great people

industrialization and modernity would not have been possible without that

that it cannibalizes itself is unfortunate, but not guaranteed

it's debatable how much christianity is responsible for our success, the argument that white people were good for christianity and not the other way around is just as valid. it doesn't matter though. i'm just trying to be pragmatic and think of what would be most effective. things can improve over time but we need speed right now.

it's probably already too late

but have to do something while we're here

I think it's credible it's both things

white people and Christianity

but yeah pragmatism

white people should be worried about how they motivate their people to breed

over a lot of other more trivial concerns

i am a baby making proselytizer haha

Christians make more babies, but that's dropping

don't need a religion for that. it's so natural.

well, you would think

but other religions produce more babies

and it's not simply the race thing

Mormons produce more too

it's just cuz they have a positive view of it

what's up

well yes, what do you mean it's kjust

it's an important thing man

i've found all people need is ONE person to give encouragement and they get on board right away.

whatever reason they have

it's good enough

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cuz we all have the desire in us, we just never get any encouragement

what alternative encouragement could work, hypothetically

it seems to me to be very abnormal

that living beings start to think reproduction isn't important

You won't go broke having children would be sufficient

to the point where they are on the edge of a demographic shrinkage