get on your knees girl

Its not a strawman lmao

oh girl

ahhh

I mean it is

GG @Soviet, you just advanced to level 3!

You're conflating the threat of violence with actual violence

That wasn’t my point

alex is a stupid niggеr

I didn't claim that calling speech violence was your point

hows that for defeating a simple word filter

i hate them

so much

ohmy god

HOLD ME I IWLL GO SICKO MODE

I claimed that people that *say* speech is violence believe this

^did him saying the n word oppress black people?

Shush black boy

Yes.

Or was that a very obvious joke.

Schuschnigg is Austrian

Using slurs isn’t a joke they propagate stereotypes that exist only to server those in power.

Like I’ve explained my points already

shut up crackеr

Yet you continue to strawman my points

I’m not white but ok

Nobody is strawmanning anything

Using slurs is meaningless unless the intended use of those slurs is to demean

Intent is what matters

If I say "fucking bitches" I don't mean female dogs in heat having sex

What is a slur?

Slushee Flavor

You’re act as if there is this imaginary conflation between what calls of violence and actual violence. When they are one in the same these are mutual exclusive terms and to act different is just ignorant to any sense of the law.

A slur is when a mommy hates a daddy very much so she sleeps with a black man to spite him

Okay

That is a whole lot of words to say actively nothing

I said you conflate terms

you say its imaginary

then you literally

IN THE NEXT SENTENCE

call them one and the same

like how am I supposed to argue with this

you literally just say "I'm not doing this" and then immediately do it

That's like punching somebody in the face and when they say "what the fuck bro" you say "I didn't do it"

and then you punch them in the face again

My point was very clear I don’t know how you ass couldn’t get it. Actual violence and calls for violence are mutually exclusive terms. And to act otherwise is dishonest and ignorant to any form of law.

Calls to violence are bad but they are not actual violence. The word itself cannot commit assault on you. Not sure why this is so hard to understand.

Like I don’t understand how you can’t grasp this very simple concept

Wait, now you're saying they *aren't* the same thing?

Ok I'm confused as to what the fuck you're trying say, take a breath, use some actual punctuation, and speak clearly

You just said "calls for violence and actual violence are mutually exclusive terms".

Because so far you've acted as if I have both claimed that violence and calls to violence are the same thing, and also like I haven't and I'm really trying to parse together what exactly you're trying to communicate

You act as if I’m pissed or something. I’ve explained myself to you countless times now. My position hasn’t changed. Calls for violence and acts of violence are the one in the same while you act as if they are mutually exclusive. When that’s simply not the case you can’t separate the actions form then intend to do that action.

Ok ok ok

So you think that calls to violence and violence are actively similar

what the fuck happens if somebody says "I'm gonna fucking kill you" and then never does a single thing about it

Nobody is acting like anybody is pissed

Last time a checked a word itself couldn't cause physical harm but ok, lets just call them the same thing.

The intent still hasn’t changed

I'm acting like you can barely communicate yourself without making contradictory points

Actually the intent could be a multitude of things

Weather you act or not is up to you

You know how many empty threats get thrown around

The intent to do the action is still there

Ok but that doesn’t mean anything

Just because x happens doesn’t mean it’s ok for it to happen

technically if I say "I'm gonna fucking kill you" to my friends in a humorous ways, and we're using your reasoning, I just commited an act of violence against my friend who I had no intent to ever harm

This server is racist

So if I'm playing Halo 3 splitscreen and I get pissed and look to my friend and say "I'LL KILL YA", do you actually think I will get up from my chair and garrote him with a controller cord over a game death?

Because that's what you're insinuating.

And I have a lot of complaints about the racism from this server it is so complicated they call me a slave

Well its just a total absolutist way of thinking

There is no nuance, there is no context, there is no intent

War is peace

1984 is not a manual.

War is war

Not peace

What are you on about

War is madness

I'm not sure how you're lost.

I don't either

I've spoken very clearly, maybe I should jumble all my words together into a commaless soup

You are redefining my position so you can pidgin hole me into this easy beat down.

No...?

Dude

You are claiming

When you say racist jokes you are racist

Exactly

Not that hard of a concept

thats a totally absolutist way of thinking

Yet you try and justify your actions

Intent is a myth now.

what’s wrong with racist jokes?

With that absolute idea, there is no context, there is no intent, and there is no nuance

None of those things exist under that line of reasoning

I mean they do exist

Why would you need nuance when you put down a marginalized group for a joke

you just choose to ignore them

Yes just suck it up

Because everyone should kiss my ass

Like fuck off kid

Oh now we're regurgitating talking points while dodging the argument, nice.

This is

<:mike:669413853406298115>

smh

I feel like I'm arguing with a chat bot

that was trained by the deepest darkest corners of tumblr and twitter

How did I avoid the argument

Allah

Is

Black

The argument is very simple

Nuance, intent and context all exist

Jesus is fucking Arab

and your absolutist statement ignores them

It doesn’t matter

With that absolute idea, there is no context, there is no intent, and there is no nuance
None of those things exist under that line of reasoning
I mean they do exist
StonedSlavToday at 8:32 PM
Why would you need nuance when you put down a marginalized group for a joke
Soup Can SamToday at 8:32 PM
you just choose to ignore them
StonedSlavToday at 8:32 PM
Yes just suck it up

and is therefore based on flawed reasoning

oh man, it's a mystery lmfao

Most racists on discord believe racism is legitimized through science

Shut yo smart wannabe ass up

Because absolutism is fucking retarded in like 99% of cases

Tf

Is

Brb

Brb

I’m finna pull up

On this Turkish barber

Now if you want to talk about legitimate racism, get a drink or two in me and ask me about Constantinople

Like if I say the n word as a joke or not it’s still used in a way to put down another race. Like it’s not that hard

You mean Istanbul

LMAO

Its

not

though

I mean constantinople

If you claim it to be Constantinople you have some real attachment issues

But it’s sad

So what happens when both black and white people joke about the n word?

Saying the n word not being black shows the oblivious in you

wha

That is

Not english

Issa Street Rule

Cuhh

You finna follow it

wow

A white person saying nigga is not inherently racist

Wth

Not at all

I want to test something

Didn’t say it was racist

Didn't say you said it was

If they say fucking hard R to a black person with the intent of demeaning that black person for the color of their skin

that is racist

Is it inherently racist if a black person calls a mexican a wetback?

Okay

wetback

that's such a funny racial slur

And is it inherently racist if a black person calls a white person a colonizer?

Lol

Lets see if we get consistent logic.

We wont

🍿

Funny how black people were called coloured people

because he probably operates under that retarded ass definition of racism that involves "racial power"

NAACP should rename themselves to the NAAAA

Naaaa N

Nah N

I actually have a friend that does not give a shit if I call him hard R n word but I fucking say monkey or coloreds he goes off

That's weird

which is why context matters

Perhaps it’s to do with the physicals

The n word is usually disregarded

Because somehow its more dehumanizing for him to be called a monkey than it is hard R

But appearance

And for different people, its different

Because as much as intent is important, so is reception

Damn, we might've caused slav to short-circuit with this

But in the world of language absolutists, it doesn't matter

its not real

Context doesn't exist

What if black people were pitch black

Then you couldn’t see them at night

Lol

What is this

I'm about to short circuit as well

idk it kinda devolved from some moron claiming that threats of violence and violence were the same thing and then

it just went downhill from there

Anyone think black people are sexy

Ehh not really my type

Who thinks religion is indoctrinising

And stupid

Yo

Now this is podracing

And also in the wrong debate channel

Religion was basically some monk in -9999BC

<#523834972126052352>

Tell us more

don’t be racist lel

Why not?

@Soviet that's so pseudo.yes you can. Man is not pre disposed to madness only pushed to madness.

i bring you this

the black lives matter movement is stupid

Black lives don't matter

@run 120 minutes lose 120 pounds

Black lives do matter

Prove it

Cause they were once slaves

And got freedom

White ppl

Bleh

They are stupid

Unhelpful

And bitches

Retarded ass bitches

Some nice some mean some racist

That’s all

Everyone must respect who they are

That made no sense

And what they will be in the future

lol

"black lives don't matter"

"yes they do"

"why?"

"white people are dumb, we wuz kangz"

If black lives don’t matter white lives don’t matter

unironically only your life matters in your own eyes

Yes

White lives matter

Just because u hate that they have color doesn’t mean nothing

Yes it does.

I bet some of your friends are black and u have fun with them

U just wanna hide the secret u actually hate them

Irrelevant to convo

U are what I call a bastard

A fool

I don't care

Your opinion is irrelevant

U think ur tough and all just because u have mods

You're a retard

I stg some people need beat up because they are just fucking stupid

No matter color