Generally. There ARE some shitty, chinky ones

1050 or used 970 seem appropiate

used 970s are like $70

generally speaking nvidia's generations scale one model number up, so 1050 ~= 960

https://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker?cm_sp=Homepage_SS-_-P1_14-137-256-_-07282019&Index=1

🇨🇦 BTW

This AMD card is on sale right now

https://i.imgur.com/XOyfbjz.png

still not bad price tbh

@basker anything amd 4xx or 5xx go used

mining cards flooded the market and prices hit the floor

yeah im thinking a 1660

1660 is surprisingly good

https://spectrum.ieee.org/energywise/aerospace/aviation/rooftop-solar-refinery-produces-carbonneutral-fuels

https://www.privacycompany.eu/en/new-dpia-on-microsoft-office-and-windows-software-still-privacy-risks-remaining-short-blog/

Report from the dutch government on microsoft telemetry

j u s t w a i t

Good read @Goz3rr

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/minibook-mobile-workstation-in-your-hand

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jellyphone/titan-unihertz-rugged-qwerty-smartphone/description

also things i forgot to link here : <https://www.fxtec.com/product/fxtec-pro1-pre-order/>

@Tervy under graphics they claim it can do AAA class gaming

it's a low power dual core

😂

It can maybe run games that are ported from switch but with slower GPU and about the same CPU horsepower it'd be a stretch

the Y series are great daily chips, I do nearly everything on mine (from ff/chrome to Photoshop to Premiere with low bitrate video) but they're not powerhouses by any means, lying chinks

tbh idk, I had a Surface 4 Pro m3 and damn was it slow

Even for browsing with Vivaldi (because Chrome kept dying due to the 4GB of ram) it was a major hassle as soon as I opened more than 5 tabs

vivaldi is effectively chrome tho

so you just changed bad to bad <:alithink:327930371796893698>

I wanted Chrome but Chrome vanilla wouldn't run

Vivaldi is actually *small footprint* Chromium

It tries to do a decent job at it, and by default for most people I guess it's good enough

It does neat things like putting tabs to sleep when you are almost hitting the RAM limit

(without using any extension)

And overall got a lower CPU footprint

But it's usually at the cost of speed

+ fully compatible with Chrome extensions as a result

as i said effectively chrome

It's still better than Chrome vanilla while retaining some features from it is what I wanted to say

But even with that it was bad

sadly most of that can be blamed on web pages itself

not the browsers

Yeah but the other tasks weren't faring that much better

Except for some very low spec games, 'gaming' was a hassle

Games like Curious expedition or Heat Signature were fine for example, Rimworld wasn't

yeah in no form any netbook/ultrabook can be considered heavy-work/gaming machine

And 3D games were a joke, even low tier ones

hell even large bulky laptos still suck at them due thermal issues

It actrually depends on how much money you put in them

I now own an X270 with an i5 and it's very decent

i still would not touch ansys with it :D

Much more than m3 joke

The only real advantage of those m3 are their consumption which is on par with a potato

Even on heavy load (which is pretty much 50+% of the time considering its performance)

no winners over nc10 yet ;_;

i just want proper small netbooks with fuckhuge battery

so i can happily run typora and 2 tabs for whole day if i so want to

(and have enough space to install *shrug* latex library to it

not that i have any idea to buy one as i have functioning laptop what is just dependant on 1 hour timelimit and outlet hunting

I will tell you as the owner of a Surface Pro 4 i5/4GB it's the problem of crappy Vivaldi ram management and the lack of ram in the first place

Chrome is just as bad, Windows with low ram is painful

Yeah well I wouldn't resort to Vivaldi if I had like 8 GB of RAM

(hence why I switched back to Chrome as soon as I got my X270)

gonna build a pc for a boomer whos just gonna check mail and surf, whats the most price worthy AMD CPU with integrated graphics?

2200g or 200ge

damn 200ge had a nice price, gone everywhere here

guess I go with 2200g, thx

maybe 220ge or 240ge is in stock?

yeah that was in stock, just 10€ cheaper

is it better or worse?

better

240 > 220 > 200

just a higher clock speed

i mean compared to the 2200g

oh

worse

2200g is a quad core

cant find a good benchmarking comparision site

athlon is dual core

but a 2200g is double the price so

its not here, just 10€ diffrence. 240ge costs 849kr, 2200g costs 949

lmfao

swede taxes

481 for 240ge here

that's with 21% taxes

481€!??!

or crowns?

crowns

oh alright

845sek for 2200g

holy shit

do you get any problems when you install a pirated windows xp and connect to the internet?

Why the actual fuck would you be using XP in 2019

because this other boomer fuck has a PC with 2GB RAM

and some dumbfuck installed windows 10 on it

takes 10 minutes to open firefox

Literally spend $50 to get him a refurbished optiplex running 8 or 10

im not american, we dont have that freedom

>connecting windows xp to the internet

i'll take bad ideas for $50 alex

2gb is enough to run windows 10

really? its like DDR2

he had like no programs installed, everything was slow af, dont think the motherboard has support for SATAs

hdd is probably dead

so at this point raspberry is better device

hue hue hue

isnt there a pirated windows xp that was improved and worked well online?

gonna convince him to buy a new pc anyways

no

@Phatique yeah its calles linux

I dont think a boomer is every gonna manage to use linux, also he loves his windows live mail and refuses to use any other mail client

Drop him

boomers be boomers

Like for real find tallest cliff and drop him

"Linux is good for old people" is such a fucking meme

yeah "its so easy to use linux, to install this program all you need to do is just open up terminal and type in sudo apt get fuckmyass.avi and then to have permission to use it you need to do this x terminal command and then y and then z"

^ literally every code monkey linux user who has no idea what user friendliness is

--description of arch linux 2019

And if you can't do that, you should LITERALLY just not use a computer @Phatique

mmm how closely kmail resembles live mail GUI wise

hell i dont even remember how the kmail looks

yeah dont you just love to have to type in some terminal commands you need to google because it dosent work when you install the program

pressing on .exe files and following a wizard is easier for 99% of people, however linux users dont get it

thankfully most of mainstream distros have aged beyond those times

sure its still somehow easier and simple to install sofware from commandline than from GUI

but giving GUI to person who still uses XP and livemail is more favorable option than power of commandline

99% of people disagree, only your /gents/ prefer cmd/terminal

i mean if i know what im searcing terminal + command is simply faster than opening bloat what is called debians installer thing :D

faster dosent mean easier

sure stuff like native KDE discover on plasma desktop and even appcenter are way nicer these days

than what ever drugs debian devs had when they spinned that horrible package manager up

ask normal pc user how to install a program, they will not think opening up a terminal and typing in commands

they will not even know the basic commands

if my computer illiterate mom can do it after receiving single text message

anyone can

:D

but indeed i knew what system it was and copy pasting text from phone screen to command line is way easier

but sure i would not let my mum search apps on her own

i mean she has "files, help, phone,internet, mail,radio" shortcuts on desktop

and so far i get calls only if something major has porkked after automated update script

so rarely than once a year

most of the time computer is not even on when the update check is supposed to go off so...

but i agree that for more computer illiterate generations its indeed easier for them to use GUI

tervy has a mom?

ok you can bring on your anecdotes that your mom can handle linux "then everyone should be able to".

However if you claim linux is more user friendly than windows/OSX you're just delusional.

but considering generic OS-base programs what stuff like ubuntu,mintmanjaro,elementary,fedora have id say they rarely even need to install extra

@Phatique i did not claim it in any point tho ?

i claimed they have come long way what they used to be on userfriendliness

to the point standard people(old and young) sometimes(it happens) even prefer them when given chance to test them

where it used to be "too confusing/ugly/afraid of change"

hardest part is the setup for all new enviroment for people

they dont know the linux world programs that well (Specialy if they want separate mail client/use only what came with the OS)

but if they are people who have used VLC,Firefox/chrome/vivaldi/whatever,skype,spotify,itunes,dropbox etc for their whole life

that all is still familiar to them

it just needs to be installed and setup

(itunes ofc being the hardest enemy from that list)

but usualy its just some niche stuff they are used to use on windows on the people who turn back (or certain work programs like office tool required to be X )

but that just my own notes along years i have given people systems to test and what people most complain

but fixing wise both are hell on for average user anyway

you cant expect windows user to go to registry to flip bits or device manager to roll back drivers, or find bluescreen reasons or or or its all just different kinds of pains

Tl;dr

just use windows

it Just Works

@Tervy one problem with that theory

office

the entire office suite is a mess in Wine, LibreOffice is dogshit, and Google Docs is too radical for boomers to get used to

You can use Microsoft suite online

Office online is ok

(its not)

microsoft online suite is worst piece of crap in history of coding

specialy with "you can edit same document same time" bullshit what never works

does openoffice work

and their permission hell needs doctorate to understand and work with

i partialy agree with droidbot if that in you focus only on office_suites_ there is no perfect option for linux

but separate programs from there and there are better than anything on linux world while libreoffice is slowly getting there(also last time i checked Calligra works darn nicely even tho UI is not the 1:1 copy)

meanwhile in internet https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-is-such-a-hit-it-almost-outsold-intels-entire-cpu-range

tldr: `` for every single processor sold by Intel, AMD sold four. ``

@Tervy I had to use the Office in-client sync a while ago for an Excel project

Straight up broken as hell

I'd show up on my friends client but my changes wouldn't show up and he didn't appear on my side at all

yeah its most useless piece of carbage i have been required to use

thankfully etherpad and calc offered solution for me

Ended up just saving the file to Google drive and letting the versioning system in place there work for us

@Tervy company releases new product, sales increase

more at 8

* for a single store in germany

here's from a store in NL

https://i.redd.it/tywurdklhwd31.png
https://i.redd.it/o5wv0ebihwd31.png

first is % of sales

second is % of revenue

yo

I am thinking about buying my own parts for making a pc

I was thinking of buying this new zenshit stuff

which processor should I go for?

I want it to be future proof

Why was 3700x so popular

I got a 3600 set up today and lots of reviews are like 'this is a good gaming cpu'

It's not?

I can't imagine that so much more people would shell out an additional $150-$200 for a 3700x

For productivity sure, but id imagine there are more gamers™

Ah I though you were angry that reviewers said the *3600* was a good gaming cpu

Regardless neat to see amd winning after like 8 years of lossed

guys

what should my steup me like

1,245.87 USD budget

3700x

gpu?

5700xt

imo

damn, half the budget goes to the cpu and cpu

already have keyboard mouse and monitor

@androidcrawler just gaymen? Or work?

gaymen

but I sometimes play simulations like arma too

but yeah, basically a gaymen pc

any technical work I need to do, I can probably wait the extra time forexample to render something

What resolution/framerate you wanna play at?

ideally 120fps

is 1440 worh it?

or should I stick to 1080

Well it's better

then yea 1440p with 120fps

Is there a good way to record a Youtube livestream without losing out on the quality too much?

Don't all youtube livestreams end up as regular videos when the livestream's done?

Fairly sure youtube-dl will do what you want regardless

@Raikon wanna record a Lollapalooza (music festival) concert of a specific artist

@Raikon Yes but in the case of concerts probably not

Ah true. In any case, youtube-dl will work

Maybe not if its live <:iosthink:328535776843268105>

youtube-dl does work for livestreams

BUT that exact stream doesnt have DVR enabled, which is used by yt-dl

Maybe with a screen capture then

The stream is in like 4 hours and I'm going to bed

Maybe someone else will do it

https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-stats-q2-2019/

For a budget gaming build I could have the following for 140 € total

Nvidia 1050 Ti
Ryzen 3 1200
8 GB RAM

Should I? It's pre owned

Includes a case and a seasonic modular psu

throw the parts on ebay search for used and make decision from that

if its case-power-motherboard and all that jazz

140 aint that bad deal id say

ofc depending how used etc they are

Allegedly 2 years old and "used for a few hours every day"

Also the seller is saying that he is going to clean it all

Remove the dust and so on

I will ask about the mainboard. It's not listed explicitly

lol no mb included