Message from @Tervy

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2019-08-02 16:20:43 UTC  

--description of arch linux 2019

2019-08-02 16:21:19 UTC  

And if you can't do that, you should LITERALLY just not use a computer @Phatique

2019-08-02 16:22:12 UTC  

mmm how closely kmail resembles live mail GUI wise

2019-08-02 16:22:32 UTC  

hell i dont even remember how the kmail looks

2019-08-02 16:22:38 UTC  

yeah dont you just love to have to type in some terminal commands you need to google because it dosent work when you install the program

2019-08-02 16:23:09 UTC  

pressing on .exe files and following a wizard is easier for 99% of people, however linux users dont get it

2019-08-02 16:23:13 UTC  

thankfully most of mainstream distros have aged beyond those times

2019-08-02 16:23:29 UTC  

sure its still somehow easier and simple to install sofware from commandline than from GUI

2019-08-02 16:23:46 UTC  

but giving GUI to person who still uses XP and livemail is more favorable option than power of commandline

2019-08-02 16:24:22 UTC  

99% of people disagree, only your /gents/ prefer cmd/terminal

2019-08-02 16:25:41 UTC  

i mean if i know what im searcing terminal + command is simply faster than opening bloat what is called debians installer thing :D

2019-08-02 16:26:01 UTC  

faster dosent mean easier

2019-08-02 16:26:09 UTC  

sure stuff like native KDE discover on plasma desktop and even appcenter are way nicer these days

2019-08-02 16:26:26 UTC  

than what ever drugs debian devs had when they spinned that horrible package manager up

2019-08-02 16:26:48 UTC  

ask normal pc user how to install a program, they will not think opening up a terminal and typing in commands

2019-08-02 16:26:56 UTC  

they will not even know the basic commands

2019-08-02 16:27:19 UTC  

if my computer illiterate mom can do it after receiving single text message

2019-08-02 16:27:20 UTC  

anyone can

2019-08-02 16:27:21 UTC  

:D

2019-08-02 16:28:08 UTC  

but indeed i knew what system it was and copy pasting text from phone screen to command line is way easier

2019-08-02 16:28:18 UTC  

but sure i would not let my mum search apps on her own

2019-08-02 16:29:03 UTC  

i mean she has "files, help, phone,internet, mail,radio" shortcuts on desktop

2019-08-02 16:29:27 UTC  

and so far i get calls only if something major has porkked after automated update script

2019-08-02 16:29:39 UTC  

so rarely than once a year

2019-08-02 16:29:57 UTC  

most of the time computer is not even on when the update check is supposed to go off so...

2019-08-02 16:30:47 UTC  

but i agree that for more computer illiterate generations its indeed easier for them to use GUI

2019-08-02 16:31:00 UTC  

tervy has a mom?

2019-08-02 16:32:45 UTC  

ok you can bring on your anecdotes that your mom can handle linux "then everyone should be able to".

However if you claim linux is more user friendly than windows/OSX you're just delusional.

2019-08-02 16:32:56 UTC  

but considering generic OS-base programs what stuff like ubuntu,mintmanjaro,elementary,fedora have id say they rarely even need to install extra

2019-08-02 16:33:13 UTC  

@Phatique i did not claim it in any point tho ?

2019-08-02 16:33:53 UTC  

i claimed they have come long way what they used to be on userfriendliness

2019-08-02 16:34:28 UTC  

to the point standard people(old and young) sometimes(it happens) even prefer them when given chance to test them

2019-08-02 16:35:13 UTC  

where it used to be "too confusing/ugly/afraid of change"

2019-08-02 16:35:33 UTC  

hardest part is the setup for all new enviroment for people

2019-08-02 16:36:34 UTC  

they dont know the linux world programs that well (Specialy if they want separate mail client/use only what came with the OS)

2019-08-02 16:38:08 UTC  

but if they are people who have used VLC,Firefox/chrome/vivaldi/whatever,skype,spotify,itunes,dropbox etc for their whole life

2019-08-02 16:38:12 UTC  

that all is still familiar to them

2019-08-02 16:38:18 UTC  

it just needs to be installed and setup

2019-08-02 16:38:54 UTC  

(itunes ofc being the hardest enemy from that list)

2019-08-02 16:40:54 UTC  

but usualy its just some niche stuff they are used to use on windows on the people who turn back (or certain work programs like office tool required to be X )

2019-08-02 16:42:08 UTC  

but that just my own notes along years i have given people systems to test and what people most complain