you said "?"

I wouldn't be shitting empty if I was on a -600, that's still a lot of food tbh

Because most of that is oatmeal

Like 3 bowls of oatmeal

Also it's not -600 calories from my maintenance

I'm eating 600 calories total.

oh my sides

that never works for me, I end up crashing and eating it all back

Thus I'm shitting on empty.

why not take some DNP?

if you're that impatient

Because I can't afford to fuck my heart.

And I'm fine dealing with hunger.

>drinks 10 cups of tea
>worried about his heart

all that caffeine brah

Doesn't do anything to my heart.

I had blood tests and took my pulse.

how fat are you now?

Fat.

shit man, you'll be on 600 for months

that fucks you up

130 at 5'3"

130 at 5'3 isn't bad

what's that, 15 pounds to be lean?

I need to be 110

starvation is okay at first but the crashing is real bad later on, 3 week mark

Lol that is not fat

like god speed but I couldn't do it again

I'm already at 3 weeks

130 at 5'3 is normal

I've adjusted.

skinny fat maybe

unless you've got zero muscle at all

Who knows.

I am fat that's all that it is.

inb4 body dysmorphia: manlet edition

do you lift?

How old are you

I have lifted in the past.

I got pretty obsessed with it before.

But I overdid it and strained my heart.

I havent done anything but sit on computer for my life and im 170 cm ja 55 kg

do you have a legit heart condition?

Im surprised that im not as big as a battle elephant

My current obsession is calorie restriction.

or like "ooft my heart better stop being active"?

Autoimmune disease.

RIP

Yeah man.

It's cool

If I die I die.

yeah isn't starvation really unwise on autoimmune disease?

because of the lack of resources

Nah I'm hitting my macros

I know anything like that doctors warn you off doing anything mad with your body

>hitting your macros
there's no macros for <600 calories lol

I've just cut down. A lot on my sugar and carb intakes.

nobody recommends a range for that

like "oh I ate a single bean, I've hit my protein for the day"

everything macro wise is assuming you're eating enough

I'm still eating protein to my weight.

And fiber to my weight.

but you're not lifting so eating your 15g of protein a day for 600 calories at 5'3 isn't doing anything

you eat protein to maintain your muscle

you'd be better off going keto and burning it off fast

I do exercise.

Also I can't keto

It'll kill me.

do you drink coffee?

Not much.

alb is a good fat decimator in my experience, doesn't raise your heart too much

and not as many sides as clen

lost 15lb in a month

1500 cals a day

only side effect was shaking hands but not so bad it's noticeable

If I wanted to lose fast on meds I would be taking ephedrine.

alb is better than ephedrine, side effects wise

I'm fine on a caloric restrict.

it has the least downsides

>calorie restrict
call it starvation m8

<1000 is starvation

It isn't starvation unless you deplete your glucose.

lol is that what /fit/ told you?

sounds like utter broscience

Nah.

I don't go to fit

where do you get your info?

pls no bb.com

i used to post there, biggest collection of retards i've encountered online

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22414/

And other resources.

this is based on fasting no?

do you refeed?

Basically if you dose little carb and throughout the day of slow releasing starches you should be able to keep your brain and liver thinking you aren't starving and thus prevent your body from going into ketosis, prevent most of the hunger, and lose more weight on a tighter restrict.

that's not what this article is about though, it's about the starved-fed refeed cycle

which I somewhat agree with

You said I'm starving.

Im saying I'm avoiding that mechanism.

>avoiding that mechanism
you can only avoid it so long because it hits your hormones and other things

I tried to cut down to <10% body fat and ended up with insane depression and no boner